Royal Navy's entire fleet of attack submarines out of action - Page 3

Catfish · 02-12-17, 03:58 PM

Who built those gearboxes?! Oh wait, General Electrics..

Oberon · 02-12-17, 04:28 PM

It's worse than that...it's an Italian company owned by General Electrics.

Should have just built the whole engine in one place, Rolls-Royce could probably have handled it. France could have done the airframe and Germany the electronics...and Spain...could have painted it...under supervision.

ikalugin · 02-12-17, 06:05 PM

This thread went weird.

Jimbuna · 02-12-17, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's worse than that...it's an Italian company owned by General Electrics.

Should have just built the whole engine in one place, Rolls-Royce could probably have handled it. France could have done the airframe and Germany the electronics...and Spain...could have painted it...under supervision.

speed150mph · 02-13-17, 12:48 AM

That's okay. You Brits are still doing better then us cousins of the north. I haven't checked recently to see if HMCS Windsor is back in operation yet after her last set of issues out her back at the pier, but I don't think we go any further then around the corner.

I hope the USN has some SSNs in the Canadian arctic, because If the Russians have any, we'd be the last to know about it

Oberon · 02-13-17, 06:35 AM

Yeah, sorry about those Upholders...

I mean, the class itself is sound, it's just...well...when you leave them out in all weathers for a few years...

Then again, it seems that the Oberons must have cursed their replacements because the Aussie Collins boats had a few teething issues too, and they were home-built. Only in the Commonwealth though, because Brazil and Chile haven't had problems with their 209 and Scorpéne.

Onkel Neal · 02-13-17, 07:11 AM

Britain's fleet of submarines 'out of action' report is 'categorically not true'

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Reports that Britain’s entire fleet of attack submarines is currently out of operation due to repair and maintenance work have been dismissed by military sources.

It comes after the Sun reported that seven nuclear-powered vessels, including three new Astute class submarines, which cost more than £1 billion each, and four Trafalgar class boats were all currently classed as non-operational.

The UK’s Vanguard submarines, which carry Trident nuclear missiles, are in operation but according to the newspaper it is the first time in decades the Royal Navy has no attack submarines ready.

But on Friday afternoon, an MoD source said the claims were false.
“The story is categorically not true – there are operational, capable and ready attack submarines,” they said.

“Where they might be is clearly sensitive operational information that the MoD will not comment on.”

Skybird · 02-13-17, 07:28 AM

The Trident that strayed off also was fully operational and on station.

The accused - the MoD - maybe is not the most trustworthy source here.

The Sun article probably is exaggerated. But something must have gotten it started.

Jimbuna · 02-13-17, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The Sun article probably is exaggerated.

The Sun? Exaggerated?

If the Sun informed me of the time, day and date I'd go to my diary and wristwatch to check it was truthful and accurate

ikalugin · 02-13-17, 07:53 AM

Heh, that is the normal problem of the -special- media.

However there is a real issue there - RN needs more stuff, especially major surface and subsurface combatants as with 7 boats you would have ~2 availiable for duties at any given time which is not enough for the British global ambitions.

Catfish · 02-13-17, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Yeah, sorry about those Upholders...

I mean, the class itself is sound, it's just...well...when you leave them out in all weathers for a few years...

You didn't expose them to SALT WATER?!

Mr Quatro · 02-13-17, 03:10 PM

We need a two day time delay to get the truth anymore ...

Like TV sports and concerts have a 10 minute delay in case of a wardrobe malfunction

Oberon · 02-13-17, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

You didn't expose them to SALT WATER?!

We may have accidentally exposed them to air as well...

STEED · 02-13-17, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The Sun? Exaggerated?

If the Sun informed me of the time, day and date I'd go to my diary and wristwatch to check it was truthful and accurate

Murdoch always tells the truth.

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speed150mph Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 132 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	That's okay. You Brits are still doing better then us cousins of the north. I haven't checked recently to see if HMCS Windsor is back in operation yet after her last set of issues out her back at the pier, but I don't think we go any further then around the corner. I hope the USN has some SSNs in the Canadian arctic, because If the Russians have any, we'd be the last to know about it __________________ Americans make better submarines? No my friend, Russia makes better submarines, Americans just make better computers

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,457 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The Trident that strayed off also was fully operational and on station. The accused - the MoD - maybe is not the most trustworthy source here. The Sun article probably is exaggerated. But something must have gotten it started. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Heh, that is the normal problem of the -special- media. However there is a real issue there - RN needs more stuff, especially major surface and subsurface combatants as with 7 boats you would have ~2 availiable for duties at any given time which is not enough for the British global ambitions. __________________ Grumpy as always.

02-12-17, 04:28 PM	#32
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's worse than that...it's an Italian company owned by General Electrics. Should have just built the whole engine in one place, Rolls-Royce could probably have handled it. France could have done the airframe and Germany the electronics...and Spain...could have painted it...under supervision.

02-13-17, 06:35 AM	#36
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Yeah, sorry about those Upholders... I mean, the class itself is sound, it's just...well...when you leave them out in all weathers for a few years... Then again, it seems that the Oberons must have cursed their replacements because the Aussie Collins boats had a few teething issues too, and they were home-built. Only in the Commonwealth though, because Brazil and Chile haven't had problems with their 209 and Scorpéne.

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