Getting out of harm's way in time..

Greystone · 07-16-18, 04:23 PM

Air attacks; when they come, I'm warned by crew or the radar detector.
I've got the time compression, through SH3 Commander, set at 0 (pause) when planes are detected.
When detection occurs, I unpause and immediately crash dive.
So far, so good; and then comes the transition from diesel to electric engines.
Once the diesels shut down, it takes an agonizingly long time for the electric motor to kick in and start the propellers turning again.
By the time they do, there's maybe 5 seconds left before I'm depth charged. Sometimes I'm lucky, but will often suffer deck plating or flak gun damage.
My diesel/electric crew complement is full; green all the way across.
Has anyone found a way to lower the time span between diesel shut down and electric kick-in?

stork100 · 07-16-18, 07:30 PM

Not to my knowledge. The subject has been raised previously:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=236964

The dive times are already realistic in any case, so such a change if it could be made should be made to alter the appearance and sound only.

Greystone · 07-16-18, 09:22 PM

Thanks, stork100..
In the 3 or 4 times I've been attacked from the air since my post, the boat has managed to get down to 30-40 meters before the depth charges, providing adequate safety from the attacks. The time lapse between diesel & electric hasn't changed; the only change is that the initial problem no longer exists. I don't know, words fail me. I think the gods are just pulling my chain..

stork100 · 07-16-18, 10:51 PM

Sometimes you get lucky...sometimes not. Weather and time compression can play a part. Got to feel sorry for the guys in real life. In mid 1943 they were ordered to stay on the surface and fight it out with the guns unless they could safely dive to 80m before being attacked. Glad it's just a game!

Aktungbby · 07-17-18, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Greystone

Air attacks; when they come, I'm warned by crew or the radar detector.
I've got the time compression, through SH3 Commander, set at 0 (pause) when planes are detected.
When detection occurs, I unpause and immediately crash dive.
So far, so good; and then comes the transition from diesel to electric engines.
Once the diesels shut down, it takes an agonizingly long time for the electric motor to kick in and start the propellers turning again.
By the time they do, there's maybe 5 seconds left before I'm depth charged. Sometimes I'm lucky, but will often suffer deck plating or flak gun damage.
My diesel/electric crew complement is full; green all the way across.
Has anyone found a way to lower the time span between diesel shut down and electric kick-in?

NOT FOR THE ELECTRIC 'KICK-IN' BUT IF YOUR SITTING 'HEAVY' AT 6 METERS OR DECKS AWASH, TROLLING ON THE DIESEL, INSTEAD OF FULLY SURFACED AT 4, IT SHOULD REDUCE YOUR CRASH-DEPTH TIME; ALSO DON'T FORGET AN IMMEDIATE HARD PORT OR STARBOARD TURN AS YOU ARE DIVING. TRY BOTH HEAVY AND FULLY SURFACED AND TIME THEM WITH A WATCH TO NOTE THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR PARTICULAR GAME.

Greystone · 07-17-18, 07:10 PM

stork100; I wasn't aware of that 1943 order.. it's a wonder the crew had any morale left at all by then.

Aktungbby; thanks for the heads-up. The only downside, unfortunately, is that, without anyplace to go anymore to avoid air attacks, I'd have to run decks awash everywhere I went.

Sailor Steve · 07-17-18, 07:24 PM

And indeed you wouldn't go anywhere. Decks Awash is great for attacking convoys in calm water, but your travel speed would be considerably reduced and fuel usage would go through the roof.

flag4 · 07-28-18, 01:46 PM

average time to submerge: 25/30 seconds.

Pisces · 08-22-18, 09:54 AM

Sometimes the crew is tired and not all are transfered to the electric motor room. Officer dereliction of duty I call it. But what can you do about it. Make sure they are moved and the electric engine kicks in.

3catcircus · 08-26-18, 04:46 AM

If your intent is to crash dive, it should immediately order a flank bell - the momentum caused by this should allow you to continue with a hard turn while waiting for the electric motors.

07-16-18, 04:23 PM	#1
Greystone Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 155 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Getting out of harm's way in time.. Air attacks; when they come, I'm warned by crew or the radar detector. I've got the time compression, through SH3 Commander, set at 0 (pause) when planes are detected. When detection occurs, I unpause and immediately crash dive. So far, so good; and then comes the transition from diesel to electric engines. Once the diesels shut down, it takes an agonizingly long time for the electric motor to kick in and start the propellers turning again. By the time they do, there's maybe 5 seconds left before I'm depth charged. Sometimes I'm lucky, but will often suffer deck plating or flak gun damage. My diesel/electric crew complement is full; green all the way across. Has anyone found a way to lower the time span between diesel shut down and electric kick-in?

07-17-18, 07:24 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	And indeed you wouldn't go anywhere. Decks Awash is great for attacking convoys in calm water, but your travel speed would be considerably reduced and fuel usage would go through the roof. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-28-18, 01:46 PM	#8
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	average time to submerge: 25/30 seconds. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

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07-16-18, 07:30 PM	#2
stork100 Weps Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Posts: 352 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Not to my knowledge. The subject has been raised previously: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=236964 The dive times are already realistic in any case, so such a change if it could be made should be made to alter the appearance and sound only.

07-16-18, 09:22 PM	#3
Greystone Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 155 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Thanks, stork100.. In the 3 or 4 times I've been attacked from the air since my post, the boat has managed to get down to 30-40 meters before the depth charges, providing adequate safety from the attacks. The time lapse between diesel & electric hasn't changed; the only change is that the initial problem no longer exists. I don't know, words fail me. I think the gods are just pulling my chain..

07-16-18, 10:51 PM	#4
stork100 Weps Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Posts: 352 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Sometimes you get lucky...sometimes not. Weather and time compression can play a part. Got to feel sorry for the guys in real life. In mid 1943 they were ordered to stay on the surface and fight it out with the guns unless they could safely dive to 80m before being attacked. Glad it's just a game!

07-17-18, 07:10 PM	#6
Greystone Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 155 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	stork100; I wasn't aware of that 1943 order.. it's a wonder the crew had any morale left at all by then. Aktungbby; thanks for the heads-up. The only downside, unfortunately, is that, without anyplace to go anymore to avoid air attacks, I'd have to run decks awash everywhere I went.

08-22-18, 09:54 AM	#9
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,892 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Sometimes the crew is tired and not all are transfered to the electric motor room. Officer dereliction of duty I call it. But what can you do about it. Make sure they are moved and the electric engine kicks in.

08-26-18, 04:46 AM	#10
3catcircus Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 951 Downloads: 246 Uploads: 0	If your intent is to crash dive, it should immediately order a flank bell - the momentum caused by this should allow you to continue with a hard turn while waiting for the electric motors.