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Old 02-14-17, 10:10 AM   #1
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Hey guys!

The other day I found my DVD copy of SH3 in a drawer somewhere collecting dust (sacrilege, I know!). But man. The nostalgia. I had to give it another go

I'm having issues though. I've done tons of reading, but there are many things one can easily miss on this adventure so I'll just go through my procedure so far, because I have literally spent an entire day on getting this game to just work:

- Installed SH3 from the disk, uninstalled it, then removed Starforce, then installed it again. Thus far, I have a working 1.4b version of SH3 without Starforce. I've made some copies for future use.

- Downloaded JSGME, SH3 Commander and SH3 Front End

- Opened SH3 Front End, applied the 4gb patch and then applied the H.sie hardcore fixes

- Activated the mods using JSGME

As far as I know, this is where I should be so far. Now, the problems come with my mods (or so I believe). I want to use GWX3 with mods like some I've seen in a Let's Play (can share the link/mod list). Here is my order, after applying the GWX3 mod:

FM_NewInterior v2.1D
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
Conus' SH3GWXWS 2.3 (widescreen mod)
Thomsen's Soundpack
KB's Diesel Sound Mod
IABL's Merchant Fleet Mod v3.2
MEP v5
MEP v5 - Visual Sensors for GWX3
S3H-H.sie-Patch-v16B1

Now, the game will consistently crashes when the loading bar is about 90% when starting a new career. I just for the life of me cannot get the mod combination right - I did apply the SH3 Commander .cfg files for compatibility with GWX3.

What am I missing? I'd appreciate any help you can give
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Old 02-14-17, 11:03 AM   #2
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Hey guys!

The other day I found my DVD copy of SH3 in a drawer somewhere collecting dust (sacrilege, I know!). But man. The nostalgia. I had to give it another go

I'm having issues though. I've done tons of reading, but there are many things one can easily miss on this adventure so I'll just go through my procedure so far, because I have literally spent an entire day on getting this game to just work:

- Installed SH3 from the disk, uninstalled it, then removed Starforce, then installed it again. Thus far, I have a working 1.4b version of SH3 without Starforce. I've made some copies for future use.

- Downloaded JSGME, SH3 Commander and SH3 Front End

- Opened SH3 Front End, applied the 4gb patch and then applied the H.sie hardcore fixes

- Activated the mods using JSGME

As far as I know, this is where I should be so far. Now, the problems come with my mods (or so I believe). I want to use GWX3 with mods like some I've seen in a Let's Play (can share the link/mod list). Here is my order, after applying the GWX3 mod:

FM_NewInterior v2.1D
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
Conus' SH3GWXWS 2.3 (widescreen mod)
Thomsen's Soundpack
KB's Diesel Sound Mod
IABL's Merchant Fleet Mod v3.2
MEP v5
MEP v5 - Visual Sensors for GWX3
S3H-H.sie-Patch-v16B1

Now, the game will consistently crashes when the loading bar is about 90% when starting a new career. I just for the life of me cannot get the mod combination right - I did apply the SH3 Commander .cfg files for compatibility with GWX3.

What am I missing? I'd appreciate any help you can give
Hi mate
please probe start your sh3 just with GWX mod no other and tell if crash again...
but before... screenshot of your jsgme mod install now... if you can send... I think here wrong anything...
then thomsen sound with kb diesel sound... I don't know if can work together.... better you probe with gwx only... and then start... and tell if good... then can add other mod... one by one.. but write here help you
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Old 02-14-17, 01:07 PM   #3
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Old 02-14-17, 01:41 PM   #4
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My personal opinion.

I love GWX, it's sleek and beautiful. But like you I had issues with CTDs too. At one point I had no other mods except GWX and it still CTD!!

I switched to NYGM and out of 10 times I would experience 1 CTD.

My opinion... get rid of GWX.
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Old 02-14-17, 02:55 PM   #5
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Old 02-15-17, 12:26 AM   #6
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My personal opinion.

I love GWX, it's sleek and beautiful. But like you I had issues with CTDs too. At one point I had no other mods except GWX and it still CTD!!

I switched to NYGM and out of 10 times I would experience 1 CTD.

My opinion... get rid of GWX.
Hi mate i think
GWX -NYGM -WAC -LSH15 mod they are all very stable but it must be installed properly
problems result from incorrect installation or by mods that add to the Main mod
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Old 02-15-17, 06:07 AM   #7
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Keesh, do you have a 64bit OS and ram above 4gb? Because if not, there is no point for the 4gb patch.
If yes, do what hauangua said: after a clean installation, install GWX and run the game to see if there is a CTD. If not, proceed to enable one mod at a time and run the game to see what could be the one causing the CTD.
Normally I enable first the GWX mods and they they not be a problem.
After them I recommend the FM_Interiors, since its a heavy mod and can cause some disruption. Ex: I can not run Fm_interiors mod in my PC, both versions; why, I can not tell (possibly some lack of memory since I have a 32bit system, but could run it with my previous PC that had XP 32bits and less ram memory...).
If you can run the game fine, than processed to the others and so one.
The last should be the h.sie patch.
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Old 03-05-17, 08:50 AM   #10
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Thank you all for the warm welcome and help so far!

I'm running 64bit Windows 10 with 12gb RAM on my laptop, for reference. It was indeed mod conflicts which were crashing my game, although I'm not really sure why some of them crash because I've based my mod list on Wolfpack345's from his Mediterranean campaign. This is the mod list I'm currently using:

widescreen _GWX3.0
M.E.P v5
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3.2cg
GWX - Lite Harbour Traffic
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Skins
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
Radio Deutchland
Radio England
Radio Francais
Radio USA
Torpedo Damage Final ver2.0
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
S3H-H.sie-Patch-V16B1
Optional 02-Gauges v2 (for V16B1)

Since I've spent hours getting this game to work, and in the past have spent many hours tech supporting and trawling well beyond page 2 in Google search results to get old games to run for LANs, I will list the mods which I found would specifically not work (even when they're the only active mod):

FM_NewInterior v2.1D
GWX - English Nav Map and Grid Refs
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
IABL's Merchant Fleet Mod v3.2

I don't really mind not having those extra GWX mods or the Interiors mod, but I'd really like the Merchant Fleet Mod and I don't know why it doesn't work - I'm looking for another download link in case the files I have are corrupted.

Finally, since I have this thread open - can anyone tell me what these mods do? I'm having trouble finding out on the forum and on their official mod pages:

- M.E.P v5 - VisualSensors for GWX3 (do I activate it with M.E.P v5?)
- Optional - FSF for MEP v5

Thanks again y'all - I'm honestly amazed at how this game has come to life and with such a dedicated community and forum

PS: regarding LSH, I will be giving that a go as well at a later stage.
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Old 03-05-17, 03:21 PM   #11
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This is a strong opinion, but it is not a corrupted file. It is not the way you set your mod soup.

If you just look at the internet and sift through all the problems with GWX, you will see it is a problematic mega mod. It's a wonderful mod when it works, I literally spent more time reinstalling, restarting, and revamping the files to get that mod to work, and still had problems.

To me it is not worth the time.

Compare problems NYGM or LSH has over GWX and you will see GWX is just not worth the time.

Sorry to the GWX lovers, I know you have words for me, but a game is meant to be played not troubleshot every time you want to play it.

In fairness there are some people who have few problems with GWX, when they got it back in the day. But now all I hear today are people with problems with it.

Good luck to you.
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