Quick and dirty 688i

smokeykane · 07-03-17, 05:19 AM

After a bit of time messing around with the 688i text file that came with the Russian Subs mod i stumbled on a not so perfect looking 688i model..My first efforts were trying to move the sailplanes down and forward,but that wouldn't work for me..In the end it was easier to use the stern planes assets model in place of the original sailplanes.Then i just had to figure out how to position them..after using the Mesh Positions from a alfa,i adjusted the settings until i think i aligned them in somewhat of a correct position..The only problem is some left over texture assets on the sail from where the original plains were..This is all far from perfect but maybe it will help people who know what they are doing to create the perfect 688i

Ramius · 07-03-17, 12:45 PM

I don't think the "bits" left over on the fin can be removed as they seem to be actually sticking slightly out and not just part of the texture. I've got the same issue with the Trafalgar I'm making

LeopardDriver · 07-03-17, 12:59 PM

70 knots eh.

LTJGBeam · 07-03-17, 01:04 PM

Thanks for posting this. I had wondered if this would work! I will have to update my SSN-21 and SSN-751 688(i) mod files in my 2004 Campaign with this technique! As you say, a quick and dirty fix...

LTJGBeam · 07-03-17, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramius

I don't think the "bits" left over on the fin can be removed as they seem to be actually sticking slightly out and not just part of the texture. I've got the same issue with the Trafalgar I'm making

They are part of the 3D model itself, not just a texture, so until Killerfish puts in a Flt III and SSN-21 Model, we're stuck with the sailplane fairings being there...

The Bandit · 07-03-17, 02:01 PM

Brings back the Sub Command days.......

LTJGBeam · 07-03-17, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LTJGBeam

Thanks for posting this. I had wondered if this would work! I will have to update my SSN-21 and SSN-751 688(i) mod files in my 2004 Campaign with this technique! As you say, a quick and dirty fix...

Smokeykane --

Just uploaded an update to my 2004 Campaign Mod using your technique! A big thanks to you for the tip!

Mod Update: Thanks to Smokeykane's post on the Quick and Dirty 688(i), I have used his technique to remove the sailplanes from the SSN-21 and SSN-751 Flt III models sail and put bow planes on both subs. It's not perfect because the sailplane fairings are still present on the 3D Model, but it's a good fix until Killerfish releases actual Seawolf and LA Flt III models. Again, a big thanks to Smokeykane for the tip!

THEBERBSTER · 07-03-17, 02:19 PM

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smokeykane · 07-03-17, 02:24 PM

LTJGBeam-
No problem ,glad my novice tinkering around has helped you out..Just a pity the important game assets are hidden from us for now..

LTJGBeam · 07-03-17, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smokeykane

LTJGBeam-
No problem ,glad my novice tinkering around has helped you out..Just a pity the important game assets are hidden from us for now..

Thanks again! I was able to reverse engineer what you had done thanks to your succinct description of the process.

Also, just noticed the Bilge Rat status on yours and my User Info! LOL, I guess it's slightly better than being called a NUB!

Aktungbby · 07-03-17, 08:51 PM

smokeykane!

longface · 07-23-17, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeykane

LTJGBeam-
No problem ,glad my novice tinkering around has helped you out..Just a pity the important game assets are hidden from us for now..

Any chance you could include the source code for the mesh section of the file? I'm a lazy ******* and don't feel like manually mating a 688 with an Alfa

Shadriss · 07-23-17, 10:27 PM

Just a quick note on your screen write up for the 688i...

I note that you list them as having BQQ-10 as their installed sonar suite. This depends entirely on WHEN you are using them. I served on the USS MONTPELIER (SSN 765) fairly early on in my career, and at the time, BQQ-10 didn't exist... it was still in the very early development stages. If you are trying to set them up as CURRENTLY outfitted (IE, post 2010), then there's no problem. Otherwise, you want to list them as AN/BSY-1.

And since SEAWOLF was mentioned in relation to this, same story, only it would be AN/BSY-2.

smokeykane · 07-27-17, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by longface

Any chance you could include the source code for the mesh section of the file? I'm a lazy ******* and don't feel like manually mating a 688 with an Alfa

Just find the [Model] part in the LA class text file,then just change this part...

Material=ships/usn_ssn_los_angeles/usn_ssn_los_angeles_mat
MaterialTextures=ships/usn_ssn_los_angeles/usn_ssn_los_angeles_tx,ships/usn_ssn_los_angeles/usn_ssn_los_angeles_spec,ships/usn_ssn_los_angeles/usn_ssn_los_angeles_nm
Mesh=usn_ssn_los_angeles
MeshPosition=0,0.0094,-0.729
MeshRudder=usn_ssn_los_angeles_rudders
MeshPosition=0,0,0.515
MeshBowPlanes=usn_ssn_los_angeles_sternplanes
MeshPosition=0,0.0027,-0.7329
MeshSternPlanes=usn_ssn_los_angeles_sternplanes
MeshPosition=0,0.0029,-0.8013
MeshProp=usn_ssn_los_angeles_prop

Only one part is changed from the original file,the bowplanes are replaced with sternplanes and then re positioned..

longface · 07-31-17, 01:27 PM

Much appreciated

07-03-17, 05:19 AM	#1
smokeykane Nub Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 3 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Quick and dirty 688i After a bit of time messing around with the 688i text file that came with the Russian Subs mod i stumbled on a not so perfect looking 688i model..My first efforts were trying to move the sailplanes down and forward,but that wouldn't work for me..In the end it was easier to use the stern planes assets model in place of the original sailplanes.Then i just had to figure out how to position them..after using the Mesh Positions from a alfa,i adjusted the settings until i think i aligned them in somewhat of a correct position..The only problem is some left over texture assets on the sail from where the original plains were..This is all far from perfect but maybe it will help people who know what they are doing to create the perfect 688i Last edited by smokeykane; 07-03-17 at 12:10 PM.

07-03-17, 12:45 PM	#2
Ramius Commander Join Date: May 2001 Location: At sea (again) Posts: 457 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I don't think the "bits" left over on the fin can be removed as they seem to be actually sticking slightly out and not just part of the texture. I've got the same issue with the Trafalgar I'm making __________________ There is a forgotten, nay even forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England

07-03-17, 01:04 PM	#4
LTJGBeam Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 137 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 1	Thanks for posting this. I had wondered if this would work! I will have to update my SSN-21 and SSN-751 688(i) mod files in my 2004 Campaign with this technique! As you say, a quick and dirty fix... __________________ Salvo Regards, LTJG Beam Last edited by LTJGBeam; 07-03-17 at 02:03 PM.

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smokeykane Nub Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 3 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	LTJGBeam- No problem ,glad my novice tinkering around has helped you out..Just a pity the important game assets are hidden from us for now..

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07-23-17, 10:27 PM	#13
Shadriss A-ganger Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hooper, UT Posts: 80 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Just a quick note on your screen write up for the 688i... I note that you list them as having BQQ-10 as their installed sonar suite. This depends entirely on WHEN you are using them. I served on the USS MONTPELIER (SSN 765) fairly early on in my career, and at the time, BQQ-10 didn't exist... it was still in the very early development stages. If you are trying to set them up as CURRENTLY outfitted (IE, post 2010), then there's no problem. Otherwise, you want to list them as AN/BSY-1. And since SEAWOLF was mentioned in relation to this, same story, only it would be AN/BSY-2. __________________ STS1(SS) USN (Ret) : 1997 - 2017 USS MICHIGAN (SSBN-727 BLUE) USS MONTPELIER (SSN-765) IMF PACNORWEST USS ALASKA (SSBN-732 GOLD) USS ALABAMA (SSBN-731 GOLD) NAVAL OCEAN PROCESSING FACILITY, WHIDBEY ISLAND USS TENNESSEE (SSBN-734 GOLD)

07-31-17, 01:27 PM	#15
longface Watch Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 24 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Much appreciated