UK Politics Thread - Page 551

Jimbuna · 09-16-18, 07:42 AM

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London mayor Sadiq Khan calls for second Brexit vote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45537784

Just a few days out of nappies and already jumping on the bandwagon.

Jimbuna · 09-17-18, 01:17 PM

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Theresa May has told the BBC that MPs will have a choice between her proposed deal with the EU - or no deal at all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45543609

It would appear the line has been drawn in the sand.

Jimbuna · 09-18-18, 10:10 AM

A nice touch....even for a politician

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A wedding photographer has captured the "surreal" moment the prime minister stopped for a photograph with a newlywed couple on the Isle of Wight.

Jason and Michelle Dight were on The Parade, Cowes, being photographed on their big day when Theresa May arrived on a motor cruiser.

Mrs May apologised for not being dressed for the occasion before posing between the happy couple and offering her congratulations on Saturday.

The couple's wedding photographer, Reuben Mowle, said: "She was very pleasant - it was pretty surreal."

Mr Dight added: "We were blown away - she's in our wedding album - that's it done!"

A spokesman for Number 10 said Mrs May was on a private visit to the island with her husband.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-eng...r-cowes-couple

Jimbuna · 09-18-18, 10:13 AM

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Sir Vince Cable: Brexit not inevitable and must be stopped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45553411

Does anyone even listen to this guy anymore?

STEED · 09-18-18, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45537784

Just a few days out of nappies and already jumping on the bandwagon.

Launch the baby blimp again, he is repeating the same old tosh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45543609

It would appear the line has been drawn in the sand.

About time too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45553411

Does anyone even listen to this guy anymore?

Jimbuna · 09-19-18, 08:40 AM

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Brexit: Theresa May tells EU 'don't demand the unacceptable'

Theresa May is to warn the EU not to demand the "unacceptable" in negotiations over Northern Ireland's borders.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45566205

Can't fault her on this.

STEED · 09-20-18, 09:01 AM

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Donald Tusk: Theresa May's Brexit trade plan won't work

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45586010

It's all going to pot again.

Jimbuna · 09-20-18, 09:38 AM

Coming from a man who wasn't elected into his position but rather appointed as well as coming from a country that pays less into the coffers than a quarter of what the UK does I find that very rich.

Jimbuna · 09-20-18, 09:39 AM

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Andrew Murray has claimed someone "being paid by the taxpayer" could be behind newspaper reports of him being banned from Ukraine and a delay in securing a pass to work in Parliament.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45586015

Meanwhile, back on the planet Zonk!!

Skybird · 09-20-18, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45586010

It's all going to pot again.

Its the part of the match now where players starting getting really dirty.

Jimbuna · 09-21-18, 05:14 AM

I'm still thinking some sort of deal will be struck but nor would I be bothered if we end up with no deal.

THERE WILL BE NO IRISH BORDER

STEED · 09-21-18, 01:55 PM

Brexit has gone from bad to worst by both sides. I do not trust the EU or my own government as both sides clearly trying to play the European stage look at me I'm better than you. Politicians have lost their way and lost all rights to be trusted, the trouble is not enough people see this.

09-21-18, 02:05 PM

I completely agree with STEED.
We are just fooled.

Skybird · 09-21-18, 02:53 PM

No matter my sympathy for the British Brexit project, I annot save the British from havign made one desastrous mistake - to have underestumated form all beginning on how hard the EU would try to crack down on them to execute a deterring exmaple. But if you go bvack, I preicted right this behavuour and inteiton at the ver ybeginning of this one and a half year ago. The British side thought the Germans would influence trhe EU on behalf of pressure form german industry. It has not happened, and weill not happen. Thy thought they would get a special deal outside the ruleset of the EU, and this again will not happen.

What astionishes me is how long the Brits have stucxk to these illusions. Instead of seriousl putting all time and effort into preparing a had Brexit and then going early for it to prevent business evading - a very confrontational but in my conviction the only possible and thus necessary way to go - they hoped and still seem to hope for a miracle. But the EU is angry at the Brits not wanting to be governed by formidable wonderful EU. The EU will never forgive the Brits for putting their sovereingty over EU demands for centralism. The harder the Brexit, the more it is what the EU wants if it cannot get Britain back into the EU: a punishment that will deter everyone else sympathising with the idea of leaving the block.

And this was the goal of the EU negotiators from all beginning on. One could have seen and known this in advance on the Britiosh island -if only one would have wanted that. If Britain would leave with a successful deal that pleases everybody mor eor less, it wopuld porove that the EU is not needed that much at all and that a life outside the block is possible, thinkable. This demonstration is what has to be prevented AT ALL COSTS.

May has no chance to get what she wants. She never had. Nor would have anyone else in her place. Because Britain wants more sovereignty again - and this sin is unforgivable in the EU's percpetion.

If I were Britain, I would threaten to withdraw from cooperation in security, counter crime, intelligence and military deterrance as well, even would leave NATO. The British distribution to counter terror intelligence is of the most important quantity and quality, and there are only two European military holding a nculear deterrance from which all Europe benefits. Also, additonal intel capacities soon will be needed in the UK - to fight off and counter spionage and sabotage by its European "friends" who without doubt will try as hard as they vcan to destabbilize the political scene and public opnion in order to influence the oubklic in favour of a Brtish pro-Eu course again, bringing the heretic bakc into the family.

An aggressive low tax policy to successfully compete with the EU's highn tax regime and be more attractive for new industry and business, is another option.

Nations have no friends. Nations have interests. Wake up, Britain. Its time to sharpen fangs and claws. The EU is no negotation partner, - IT NEVER WAS. Its an enemy just below the level of warfare and assassinations. And it will play dirty and foul whenever it thinks it gets an advanatge by that.

And worst: the EU will be completely satisfied with itself and thinking of itself as the heroic knight of the holy grail by doing so. Because as we all should know by now: the EU thinks it is on a sacred mission.

The evil dressed in the clothes of the rightous and innocent - thats malice in its most brutal form. But that does not change the fact that the UK played the game in the past 18 months unbelievably naive. High. Time. To. Stop. That.

ikalugin · 09-21-18, 03:11 PM

Allegedly Brexit may undermine UK's Trident capability.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...urpose-say-mps

09-20-18, 09:38 AM	#8258
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,127 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Coming from a man who wasn't elected into his position but rather appointed as well as coming from a country that pays less into the coffers than a quarter of what the UK does I find that very rich. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-21-18, 05:14 AM	#8261
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,127 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm still thinking some sort of deal will be struck but nor would I be bothered if we end up with no deal. THERE WILL BE NO IRISH BORDER __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-21-18, 01:55 PM	#8262
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Brexit has gone from bad to worst by both sides. I do not trust the EU or my own government as both sides clearly trying to play the European stage look at me I'm better than you. Politicians have lost their way and lost all rights to be trusted, the trouble is not enough people see this. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-21-18, 02:53 PM	#8264
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,487 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	No matter my sympathy for the British Brexit project, I annot save the British from havign made one desastrous mistake - to have underestumated form all beginning on how hard the EU would try to crack down on them to execute a deterring exmaple. But if you go bvack, I preicted right this behavuour and inteiton at the ver ybeginning of this one and a half year ago. The British side thought the Germans would influence trhe EU on behalf of pressure form german industry. It has not happened, and weill not happen. Thy thought they would get a special deal outside the ruleset of the EU, and this again will not happen. What astionishes me is how long the Brits have stucxk to these illusions. Instead of seriousl putting all time and effort into preparing a had Brexit and then going early for it to prevent business evading - a very confrontational but in my conviction the only possible and thus necessary way to go - they hoped and still seem to hope for a miracle. But the EU is angry at the Brits not wanting to be governed by formidable wonderful EU. The EU will never forgive the Brits for putting their sovereingty over EU demands for centralism. The harder the Brexit, the more it is what the EU wants if it cannot get Britain back into the EU: a punishment that will deter everyone else sympathising with the idea of leaving the block. And this was the goal of the EU negotiators from all beginning on. One could have seen and known this in advance on the Britiosh island -if only one would have wanted that. If Britain would leave with a successful deal that pleases everybody mor eor less, it wopuld porove that the EU is not needed that much at all and that a life outside the block is possible, thinkable. This demonstration is what has to be prevented AT ALL COSTS. May has no chance to get what she wants. She never had. Nor would have anyone else in her place. Because Britain wants more sovereignty again - and this sin is unforgivable in the EU's percpetion. If I were Britain, I would threaten to withdraw from cooperation in security, counter crime, intelligence and military deterrance as well, even would leave NATO. The British distribution to counter terror intelligence is of the most important quantity and quality, and there are only two European military holding a nculear deterrance from which all Europe benefits. Also, additonal intel capacities soon will be needed in the UK - to fight off and counter spionage and sabotage by its European "friends" who without doubt will try as hard as they vcan to destabbilize the political scene and public opnion in order to influence the oubklic in favour of a Brtish pro-Eu course again, bringing the heretic bakc into the family. An aggressive low tax policy to successfully compete with the EU's highn tax regime and be more attractive for new industry and business, is another option. Nations have no friends. Nations have interests. Wake up, Britain. Its time to sharpen fangs and claws. The EU is no negotation partner, - IT NEVER WAS. Its an enemy just below the level of warfare and assassinations. And it will play dirty and foul whenever it thinks it gets an advanatge by that. And worst: the EU will be completely satisfied with itself and thinking of itself as the heroic knight of the holy grail by doing so. Because as we all should know by now: the EU thinks it is on a sacred mission. The evil dressed in the clothes of the rightous and innocent - thats malice in its most brutal form. But that does not change the fact that the UK played the game in the past 18 months unbelievably naive. High. Time. To. Stop. That. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-21-18, 03:11 PM	#8265
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Allegedly Brexit may undermine UK's Trident capability. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...urpose-say-mps __________________ Grumpy as always.

09-21-18, 02:05 PM	#8263
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I completely agree with STEED. We are just fooled.