Help with AI wingmen (IL2) - Page 2

Dowly · 08-24-08, 12:25 PM

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Rubbish AI seems odd to me given that much older games had AI which was actually pretty good, at least in terms of following orders (I'm thinking of Total Air War). Anyone got a link to an interview in which Oleg is asked whether Bob will address the problem?

BoB will contain improved AI, not much more has been told by Oleg.

Hmm. From what you guys are saying, the AI could be "improved" and still be sh!t. No interviewer has ever grilled Oleg on this? Those gamer sites are full of wusses.

I cant remember what all is discussed in this vid, but if you havent seen it before, watch it! Mysticpuma gets more answers from Oleg than has ever been said in the forums:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...leg+mysticpuma

onelifecrisis · 08-24-08, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

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Rubbish AI seems odd to me given that much older games had AI which was actually pretty good, at least in terms of following orders (I'm thinking of Total Air War). Anyone got a link to an interview in which Oleg is asked whether Bob will address the problem?

BoB will contain improved AI, not much more has been told by Oleg.

Hmm. From what you guys are saying, the AI could be "improved" and still be sh!t. No interviewer has ever grilled Oleg on this? Those gamer sites are full of wusses.

I cant remember what all is discussed in this vid, but if you havent seen it before, watch it! Mysticpuma gets more answers from Oleg than has ever been said in the forums:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...leg+mysticpuma

Watching now!

Oberon · 08-24-08, 03:13 PM

So far my wingmen AI in my little island squadron have behaved themselves. One of them even sacrificed his life to kill Dowly who in turn was trying to kill me. I mean, I would have preferred if he'd just shot Dowly down but ya know, whatever works

XabbaRus · 08-24-08, 04:26 PM

I had a bloody wingman take off my Rudder...

Also I told my wingman to come back after tootling off and all the way back to base I couldn't see him. Then as I was turning onto my base leg for landing I hear the loud broom of an engine and see my wingman fly over me...almost taking me out after one of my best flights.

onelifecrisis · 08-28-08, 08:34 PM

Grr... I'm getting rather disenchanted with this game.
Is it just me or can an AI plane go faster than the same plane with a human pilot? Are the AI engines immune to overheating? Also, is the AI immune to blackouts?

FIREWALL · 08-28-08, 08:50 PM

Hi Guys

I don't have any of those issues and they always follow the minimal orders I'm allowed in game to give them useing TAB key ect.

It ain't perfect but, it's all there is.

Task Force · 08-28-08, 10:21 PM

Yea the Ai is kind of dum. Ive had wing men take off wings, Shoot me when they were trying for anouther plain,Ect.

The enmy AI is crazy and never stall, they can go at a 90 degree angle and come back down without going into a crasy spin. I had a US carrier based fighter come from above and go less than two meters from the prop infront of my BF 109( shot hem down as he went by):p Apperently the AI dont have a fear of killing there selfs.

Dowly · 08-28-08, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Grr... I'm getting rather disenchanted with this game.
Is it just me or can an AI plane go faster than the same plane with a human pilot? Are the AI engines immune to overheating? Also, is the AI immune to blackouts?

Yup, the AI cant overheat nor blackout. They also manage their engine perfectly.

Task Force · 08-28-08, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Grr... I'm getting rather disenchanted with this game.
Is it just me or can an AI plane go faster than the same plane with a human pilot? Are the AI engines immune to overheating? Also, is the AI immune to blackouts?

Yup, the AI cant overheat nor blackout. They also manage their engine perfectly.

Thats cause there superhumans,(and the enemy has a special button that makes them have super planes with suits that keep all there blood from going from there brains)

Fincuan · 08-29-08, 12:26 AM

The AI sure does wonderful things, but yesterday I actually witnessed one stall and spin to the ground. I was covering someone who attacked a low-flying Hurricane and overshot, so in I went diving towards the Hurri. Before I got to firing range the Hurri pulled up sharply and spun to the ground.

See "AI-cheat pack" here for tracks on a few things the AI does

Task Force · 08-29-08, 12:36 AM

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The AI sure does wonderful things, but yesterday I actually witnessed one stall and spin to the ground. I was covering someone who attacked a low-flying Hurricane and overshot, so in I went diving towards the Hurri. Before I got to firing range the Hurri pulled up sharply and spun to the ground.

See "AI-cheat pack" here for tracks on a few things the AI does

You might want to remove that link if it has anything to do with moding the game unless you want to get thrown in the brig.

Fincuan · 08-29-08, 01:07 AM

You might want to check the link. A track in this context is an IL-2 "recording" that can be watched with the ingame viewer.

Task Force · 08-29-08, 01:09 AM

Oops he he

Ill delete my post and youl delete yours

Ill be over there--->

Raptor1 · 08-29-08, 01:10 AM

Don't think no one has seen it, mwahahahahahahahahaha!

EDIT: Bah, nevermind

Task Force · 08-29-08, 01:13 AM

AAaah crap.

Raptor just had to click this thread.:rotfl: Just to tell everyoue. The only reason I posted that was, Aaah... Oah yea I saw the words Ai and Cheat Pack.

08-24-08, 04:26 PM	#19
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I had a bloody wingman take off my Rudder... Also I told my wingman to come back after tootling off and all the way back to base I couldn't see him. Then as I was turning onto my base leg for landing I hear the loud broom of an engine and see my wingman fly over me...almost taking me out after one of my best flights. __________________

08-28-08, 08:50 PM	#21
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi Guys I don't have any of those issues and they always follow the minimal orders I'm allowed in game to give them useing TAB key ect. It ain't perfect but, it's all there is. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-28-08, 10:21 PM	#22
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yea the Ai is kind of dum. Ive had wing men take off wings, Shoot me when they were trying for anouther plain,Ect. The enmy AI is crazy and never stall, they can go at a 90 degree angle and come back down without going into a crasy spin. I had a US carrier based fighter come from above and go less than two meters from the prop infront of my BF 109( shot hem down as he went by):p Apperently the AI dont have a fear of killing there selfs. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-29-08, 01:09 AM	#28
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Oops he he Ill delete my post and youl delete yours Ill be over there---> __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-29-08, 01:10 AM	#29
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Don't think no one has seen it, mwahahahahahahahahaha! EDIT: Bah, nevermind __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

08-24-08, 03:13 PM	#18
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	So far my wingmen AI in my little island squadron have behaved themselves. One of them even sacrificed his life to kill Dowly who in turn was trying to kill me. I mean, I would have preferred if he'd just shot Dowly down but ya know, whatever works

08-28-08, 08:34 PM	#20
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Grr... I'm getting rather disenchanted with this game. Is it just me or can an AI plane go faster than the same plane with a human pilot? Are the AI engines immune to overheating? Also, is the AI immune to blackouts?

08-29-08, 12:26 AM	#25
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	The AI sure does wonderful things, but yesterday I actually witnessed one stall and spin to the ground. I was covering someone who attacked a low-flying Hurricane and overshot, so in I went diving towards the Hurri. Before I got to firing range the Hurri pulled up sharply and spun to the ground. See "AI-cheat pack" here for tracks on a few things the AI does

08-29-08, 01:07 AM	#27
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	You might want to check the link. A track in this context is an IL-2 "recording" that can be watched with the ingame viewer.

08-29-08, 01:13 AM	#30
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	AAaah crap. Raptor just had to click this thread.:rotfl: Just to tell everyoue. The only reason I posted that was, Aaah... Oah yea I saw the words Ai and Cheat Pack. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 08-29-08 at 01:25 AM.