Cliffs of Dover: IL2 Sturmovik - Page 31

Dowly · 04-16-12, 05:57 AM

Biiig patch coming "when it's done":
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31097

(Thanks to Crécy for pointing this out)

HunterICX · 04-16-12, 06:04 AM

Well well well, that's some good news.

Must give it another bash when that update is out there.

HunterICX

Herr-Berbunch · 04-16-12, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Biiig patch coming "when it's done"

Good. I've been flying on the ATAG server quite a bit this last week or two and noting my FPS - general flying (t/o and channel transit) is for me anywhere between 25 - 50 FPS, even low over built up areas is good, only when I come across a large group of other aircraft does it all go a bit wrong (and by a large group I mean 3+) with frames sometimes hitting a feable 2 FPS - so doubling 2 makes 4, whoopee-doop!

Quote:

After we make sure nothing is amiss, we'll make the beta patch available to everyone

Great quote from 1C - firstly 'nothing'? We'll see about that. Secondly isn't releasing a patch to everyone beyond beta?

Arclight · 04-16-12, 09:40 AM

I guess it depends on the level of testing it went through. Considering the state of the original "we're out of money - now or never" release it seems they don't do a lot of it, or at least don't have a decent base of playtesters available.

HunterICX · 04-21-12, 07:42 AM

Aaaaand bummer...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31264

Quote:

Hello everyone,

I have to tell you is very bad news - the current beta version of the patch didn't pass internal test and was sent back for revision. We plan to assemble the new version only at the beginning of the next week.

Everything that I can offer you now are some specifications about correction of flight model.

seem we have to wait a bit longer.

HunterICX

0rpheus · 04-21-12, 11:32 AM

No great surprise on the delay tbh.

I don't often say it, but I really think they killed this game. Appalling communication, shocking moderation on the banana forums, flight models & radio commands wonky after an entire year, not to mention the performance, the terrible SP, lack of decent co-op interface...

I don't think I've ever seen a game so outright borked for so long. MG have burned almost all the goodwill they built over the decade of IL2, it just boggles the mind. So much potential, wasted. I'm not sure what they could do now to get any of that trust back.

Needs to be something special between the release of the patch and the supposed Moscow expansion - better yet, several special things* - or no matter how much they fix the fps, it won't bring back those who got burned,

*flyable Welly would be a start

Oberon · 04-22-12, 01:23 PM

I can't disagree with you, 0rp. It's a lovely sim, no doubt about it, somewhere under the coal heap there is a diamond, but the condition of it at the start, the sudden urge to drive forward with the Moscow front, putting resources into that when they should have focused fully on finishing the original, it's been a catalogue of errors and it's a shame to see it.

My hope still lies in them turning over the base CLOD code to someone like TD and letting them work their magic with it like they have with the recent patches for IL2.

Herr-Berbunch · 04-22-12, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

. . . the sudden urge to drive forward with the Moscow front, putting resources into that when they should have focused fully on finishing the original, it's been a catalogue of errors and it's a shame to see it.

^ Yeah, that! And useable flak positions too! - Why? Get the frickin' original stuff sorted first

Oh yeah, it's Ubi!!! I guess we should be thankful there are still some devs working on it at all. It really is a diamond in the rough, and it will get there - I find it frustrating but still enjoyable at the moment. SH5 of the skies?

oscar19681 · 04-25-12, 10:25 AM

What i dont understandt is why oleg choose to do yet ANOTHER battle of britain sim. The battle of britain has been done do death by now.. I dont understand that the company,s that still make real sim,s dont make another sim based on the b-17 and b-24 bombing campaign . Every time they seem to pick the battle of britain over and over again while acutally the bombing campaing and later air war over europe offers so much more. I mean comeon its been 12 years since b-17 the mighty eight and on-one for some reason has done a b-17 sim ever again .

Herr-Berbunch · 04-25-12, 11:14 AM

Cliffs does have bombers, but not the heavies - and the only flyable medium is the He-111 iirc. I know what you mean and it would've been great to see those incorporated at some point in the future to this sim, and I'd have preferred an expansion of the map to include all parts reached by these rather than head off toward the Soviets. Why BoB? I don't know, maybe they saw shooting down a few people in an aircraft, or dropping bombs on military targets better publicity than wiping out residential areas.

Hang on, got it! Air combat over water will use much less resources than a whole city or ten and seeing as it's not very well optimised (just yet) for even that they'll just have dismissed a large scale bombing campaign.

oscar19681 · 04-25-12, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Cliffs does have bombers, but not the heavies - and the only flyable medium is the He-111 iirc. I know what you mean and it would've been great to see those incorporated at some point in the future to this sim, and I'd have preferred an expansion of the map to include all parts reached by these rather than head off toward the Soviets. Why BoB? I don't know, maybe they saw shooting down a few people in an aircraft, or dropping bombs on military targets better publicity than wiping out residential areas.

Hang on, got it! Air combat over water will use much less resources than a whole city or ten and seeing as it's not very well optimised (just yet) for even that they'll just have dismissed a large scale bombing campaign.

Still if they (or someone else) did a modern remake of b-17 the mighty eight with the virtual crew management , bomber commander mode , squadron commander mode it would be an instant hit. They could include flyable fighters and escorts a la b-17 the mighty eight as well to please the dogfighting aspect . A2A simulations said they might do a remake sometime . but this was 3 years ago . I asked agaion a week ago in the forums and they still said they might do it sometime , but not anytime soon.
I dont understand why but it seems all the company,s avoid the heavies for some reason , which is strange becaus if done well it could really be succesfull title.

Herr-Berbunch · 04-25-12, 06:42 PM

Tonight, I landed well several times, then my last for the evening - can anyone spot where I went wrong?

Dowly · 04-25-12, 07:06 PM

Forgot to lower gears?

GSpector · 04-25-12, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Tonight, I landed well several times, then my last for the evening - can anyone spot where I went wrong?

You do seem a bit lower to the ground than you should be

Oberon · 04-25-12, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Tonight, I landed well several times, then my last for the evening - can anyone spot where I went wrong?

You're not upside down and on fire.

Keep trying...

04-16-12, 06:04 AM	#452
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well well well, that's some good news. Must give it another bash when that update is out there. HunterICX __________________

04-16-12, 09:40 AM	#454
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I guess it depends on the level of testing it went through. Considering the state of the original "we're out of money - now or never" release it seems they don't do a lot of it, or at least don't have a decent base of playtesters available. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

04-25-12, 10:25 AM	#459
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	What i dont understandt is why oleg choose to do yet ANOTHER battle of britain sim. The battle of britain has been done do death by now.. I dont understand that the company,s that still make real sim,s dont make another sim based on the b-17 and b-24 bombing campaign . Every time they seem to pick the battle of britain over and over again while acutally the bombing campaing and later air war over europe offers so much more. I mean comeon its been 12 years since b-17 the mighty eight and on-one for some reason has done a b-17 sim ever again . __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

04-25-12, 11:14 AM	#460
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Cliffs does have bombers, but not the heavies - and the only flyable medium is the He-111 iirc. I know what you mean and it would've been great to see those incorporated at some point in the future to this sim, and I'd have preferred an expansion of the map to include all parts reached by these rather than head off toward the Soviets. Why BoB? I don't know, maybe they saw shooting down a few people in an aircraft, or dropping bombs on military targets better publicity than wiping out residential areas. Hang on, got it! Air combat over water will use much less resources than a whole city or ten and seeing as it's not very well optimised (just yet) for even that they'll just have dismissed a large scale bombing campaign. __________________

04-25-12, 06:42 PM	#462
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Tonight, I landed well several times, then my last for the evening - can anyone spot where I went wrong? __________________

04-16-12, 05:57 AM	#451
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,006 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Biiig patch coming "when it's done": http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31097 (Thanks to Crécy for pointing this out)

04-21-12, 11:32 AM	#456
0rpheus Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK Posts: 856 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 3	No great surprise on the delay tbh. I don't often say it, but I really think they killed this game. Appalling communication, shocking moderation on the banana forums, flight models & radio commands wonky after an entire year, not to mention the performance, the terrible SP, lack of decent co-op interface... I don't think I've ever seen a game so outright borked for so long. MG have burned almost all the goodwill they built over the decade of IL2, it just boggles the mind. So much potential, wasted. I'm not sure what they could do now to get any of that trust back. Needs to be something special between the release of the patch and the supposed Moscow expansion - better yet, several special things* - or no matter how much they fix the fps, it won't bring back those who got burned, *flyable Welly would be a start

04-22-12, 01:23 PM	#457
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I can't disagree with you, 0rp. It's a lovely sim, no doubt about it, somewhere under the coal heap there is a diamond, but the condition of it at the start, the sudden urge to drive forward with the Moscow front, putting resources into that when they should have focused fully on finishing the original, it's been a catalogue of errors and it's a shame to see it. My hope still lies in them turning over the base CLOD code to someone like TD and letting them work their magic with it like they have with the recent patches for IL2.

04-25-12, 07:06 PM	#463
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,006 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Forgot to lower gears?