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12-15-15, 10:04 AM | #556 | |
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12-15-15, 11:10 AM | #557 | |
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12-15-15, 11:31 AM | #558 | |
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Better let jim know Neals secret ID.
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12-15-15, 12:49 PM | #559 |
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I'm surprised that they don't all have secret ID's.
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12-15-15, 01:01 PM | #560 | |
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Yes, there is a problem, but it's not Islam itself it's a whole mixture of screw-ups from top to bottom which leads to a rise in extremist attitudes both in the Muslim and non-Muslim population of an area. Which then leads to a feed back loop of distrust and eventual fear and hatred between the two communities. Ultimately things come to a head, and there is violence, but eventually things do tend to work themselves out if past events are any indication. In the UK we had problems with the, and I'm going to break with the PC for a moment here because I can't think of a better term, Black communities back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, there was a mounting influx of people from both the East Indies and Africa, and this lead to white Britains feeling that they were being pushed out of their neighbourhoods by these foreign people, the Police clashed with Black youths fairly regularly, stopping them and searching them because they looked 'suspicious' to the police and eventually it lead to riots. Jim probably remembers a few of them, Toxteth for example. I think when it boils down to it, a lot of the problems in the west with Islamic extremism can be traced at least partially to the fear of the unknown and the different. The media definitely plays on that with an almost 'stranger-danger' approach, highlighting the transgressions made by these new people and ignoring anything positive. This then colours peoples impressions before they've even met their first Muslim refugee, and thus when they do it's usually with a closed rather than an open mind. Faced with this rise of negativity towards their existence, the refugees will be drawn towards their own kind, folding inwards on themselves rather than outward into the wider community, and this will be seized on by recruiters for Daesh who will highlight the transgressions made by the west against the refugees and ignore anything positive, and thus the battle-lines are drawn. It takes two to tango as they say, and there are extremists on both sides of this story, and sure there are extremists who want to pander to every single whim of these people rather than reach something in the middle ground. People probably view me as one of those, if not worse. Who knows, maybe we'll be able to link up with them to tackle the extremists in both our communities, that would be nice. But, I suspect that as with most things in humanity, it's going to get worse before it gets better. If growing trends in both communities are anything to go by, it's not going to be a pretty couple of decades ahead. |
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12-15-15, 01:18 PM | #561 |
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Makes you wonder.
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12-15-15, 01:36 PM | #562 | ||
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Yeah, I know what you mean about "admin" showing up in a discussion. Some people pay no attention to it, some get cautious, some seem to go after him to show their independence. I've seen this in other forums where I am not the admin. I try not to post often in political threads, usually once every couple days or so. And I hope this is true, after I make my point, I let it go for a while. Quote:
Why do you think I got polite real fast?
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12-15-15, 01:55 PM | #563 |
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Jim hid all your beer.
I would do the same if Jim hid all my Pot Noodle Bombay Bay Boy.
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12-15-15, 02:04 PM | #564 | |
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12-15-15, 02:06 PM | #565 |
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Hi Jim can't stop have check my Pot Noodles.....
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12-15-15, 02:07 PM | #566 | ||
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12-15-15, 02:13 PM | #567 |
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I have come to the conclusion that I partially agree with people I tend to dissagree and partially disagree with people I tend to agree.
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12-15-15, 02:18 PM | #568 |
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12-15-15, 02:18 PM | #569 |
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Islam originating and practiced in Lizzard Piss Iowa or Po'Dunk China may not be the problem. But I disagree Islam is not at the top of the list of problems in Europe or in some of our community members neighborhoods. Heck, one just has to look at the origin this flood of immigrants are coming from. The entire region has been war against the infidel and each other since the days of Muhammad and it is that culture which operates in the name of Islam being imported into Europe.
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12-15-15, 02:27 PM | #570 | ||
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