How can I find a ships folder in the SEA folder to tweak its stats??

Wolfstriked · 05-11-2012, 03:07 PM

I have been tweaking the behavior of ships on sea and scene.dat.Its a bit shallower and less violent ocean but I found that any larger waves allowed causes ships to look off as they crest the waves.I also just found that my tweaked scene.dat blends really well with TMT V2's larger ships but for some ships its way off.TMT not only tweaks the draft/length etc of all ships but also tweaks there movement over the surface for more realistic look.The larger ones are now perfect but the medium ones tend to not move over the ocean and just look off.

This is not just a cosmetic thing I am trying for as it also has to do with gameplay.When the smaller ships are rock solid over rough seas it firstly looks very bad

and removes the difficulty of having to choose magnetic or impact.Just always choosing magnetic is not realistic because in rough seas they tended to choose impact due to the draft changing dramatically.But you now also have the probablity of a failure from running too close to surface in heavy seas thanks to Hsie torpedo failure mod making for a narrow window of choice.

The larger ships right now are diving just a small amount in 15m wind waves and so its a 50/50 chance of a hit with magnetics.Its a huge task and for now I will do a rough change to ships depending on their size alone as trying to tweak each ship will burn out the mind.

Will still look worlds better though

Anyone know how to find ships in the "sea" folder by their names when you target them in game,for example(tramp steamer etc).The folders for battleships are easy as the name is as is shown in game but the merchants are coded with names like NLST,NLTF,NMWP,NMSTR etc.

bigboywooly · 05-11-2012, 03:25 PM

NPTV=Small Vorpostenboot
NPTV_KFK=Kriegsfischkutter
NTB_1924=Type 23-24 classes
NTB_1937=Type 35-37 classes
MS1935=Minesweeper
NMSR=Raeumboot class
NLST=Landing Ship Tank
NDS=Large Depot Ship
NSD=Small Depot Ship
NMSS=Sperrbrecher class
NDST=Large Trawler
AC4=Cyclops
NAMM=Ammunition Ship
NKGN=Large Merchant
NKLS=Medium Cargo
NLLS=Medium Cargo - WITH LIGHTS
NKSQ=Tramp Steamer
NLSQ=Tramp Steamer - WITH LIGHTS
NKBL=Small Freighter
NKSS=Small Merchant
NLSS=Small Merchant - WITH LIGHTS
KLAKE=Great Lakes Freighter
NSCT=Coastal Freighter
NLGH=Lightship
NLL=Liberty Cargo
NVV=Victory Cargo
NFAD=Dithmarschen class
NOTMS=Large Tanker
NLTMS=Large Tanker - WITH LIGHTS
NOTMST2=Modern Tanker
NECT=Medium Tanker
NOTSF=Small Tanker
NLTSF=Small Tanker - WITH LIGHTS
NSJT=Intermediate Tanker
NNWP=Nipiwan Park-type Tanker
NCOT=Coastal Tanker
NOTCW=Whale Factory Ship
NRC=Ore Carrier
NLPL=Ocean Liner - WITH LIGHTS
NPPL=Large Troop Ship
NPTB=Small Ocean Liner
NLUS=HMT Aquitania
NCHT=Chatham-type Troop Ship
NLOL=Ceramic-type Ocean Liner
NKCA=Passenger/Cargo
NPTR=Troop Ship
NPTL=Large Passenger/Cargo - WITH LIGHTS
NTR=Troop Transport
NHSL=Hospital Ship
NPRT=Cyclops-type Collier
NGRA=Granville-type Freighter
NKSEF=Coal Freighter
Schute_M2=Small Coal Tender
NKLSS_Hansa=Medium Hansa Freighter
NKMCS_Hansa=Hansa Freighter
NKMSS_Hansa=Hansa Type Freighter
NLUS_Bremen=TS Bremen
NLUS_Europa=TS Europa
M35Hansa=Hansa Freighter
NKGHAN=Large Hansa Freighter
NPL_Hap=Small Passenger\Steamer
NPL_KDF=KDF Steamer
NPKDF=KDF Liner
NPPL_Hansa=Hapag Liner
NKSS_CAT=Cam Merchant
NKSMM=Small Cargo

Wolfstriked · 05-11-2012, 03:44 PM

Thanks Bigboywooly...I already found that and thought it doesn't point to the actual folder I need.But its in code.

I need to add an N to LSQ=Tramp Steamer to find it as its listed....

NLSQ=Tramp Steamer.Looks hard since GWX has a ton of ships!But I will try it out.

bigboywooly · 05-11-2012, 04:14 PM

The list above isnt the Sea folder EnglishNames file

IS the folder names of the ships in the Sea folder
eg

NLL=Liberty Cargo

NLL is the folder name in the Sea folder
LL is the cfg name in the roster files
LL is the class name

English names cfg shows LL=Liberty Cargo

NTB_1924=Type 23-24 classes
NTB_1924 is the folder name in the Sea folder
TB1924 is the cfg name in the roster files
TB1924 is the class name

English names cfg shows TB1924=Type 23-24 classes

I already did the hard work for you in that list

Wolfstriked · 05-11-2012, 04:52 PM

LOL,thats great stuff and here I thought I was onto something !!

Wow,I figured out the morse code that is ever present in SH3. Sadly,my tuning for the day is over as I started drinking a few beers an hour ago and just now I got sea sick watching a new change.Modding is caput for the night...till tommorow when the modding but strikes again.

Wolfstriked · 05-12-2012, 09:09 PM

Bigboywooly,any chance you can point me to the "small fishing boat".And is there a small ship code like first two letters signify the type....NL=medium merchant types etc?

05-11-2012, 03:07 PM	#1
Wolfstriked Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 580 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	How can I find a ships folder in the SEA folder to tweak its stats?? I have been tweaking the behavior of ships on sea and scene.dat.Its a bit shallower and less violent ocean but I found that any larger waves allowed causes ships to look off as they crest the waves.I also just found that my tweaked scene.dat blends really well with TMT V2's larger ships but for some ships its way off.TMT not only tweaks the draft/length etc of all ships but also tweaks there movement over the surface for more realistic look.The larger ones are now perfect but the medium ones tend to not move over the ocean and just look off. This is not just a cosmetic thing I am trying for as it also has to do with gameplay.When the smaller ships are rock solid over rough seas it firstly looks very bad and removes the difficulty of having to choose magnetic or impact.Just always choosing magnetic is not realistic because in rough seas they tended to choose impact due to the draft changing dramatically.But you now also have the probablity of a failure from running too close to surface in heavy seas thanks to Hsie torpedo failure mod making for a narrow window of choice.The larger ships right now are diving just a small amount in 15m wind waves and so its a 50/50 chance of a hit with magnetics.Its a huge task and for now I will do a rough change to ships depending on their size alone as trying to tweak each ship will burn out the mind.Will still look worlds better though Anyone know how to find ships in the "sea" folder by their names when you target them in game,for example(tramp steamer etc).The folders for battleships are easy as the name is as is shown in game but the merchants are coded with names like NLST,NLTF,NMWP,NMSTR etc.

05-11-2012, 03:25 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,096 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	NPTV=Small Vorpostenboot NPTV_KFK=Kriegsfischkutter NTB_1924=Type 23-24 classes NTB_1937=Type 35-37 classes MS1935=Minesweeper NMSR=Raeumboot class NLST=Landing Ship Tank NDS=Large Depot Ship NSD=Small Depot Ship NMSS=Sperrbrecher class NDST=Large Trawler AC4=Cyclops NAMM=Ammunition Ship NKGN=Large Merchant NKLS=Medium Cargo NLLS=Medium Cargo - WITH LIGHTS NKSQ=Tramp Steamer NLSQ=Tramp Steamer - WITH LIGHTS NKBL=Small Freighter NKSS=Small Merchant NLSS=Small Merchant - WITH LIGHTS KLAKE=Great Lakes Freighter NSCT=Coastal Freighter NLGH=Lightship NLL=Liberty Cargo NVV=Victory Cargo NFAD=Dithmarschen class NOTMS=Large Tanker NLTMS=Large Tanker - WITH LIGHTS NOTMST2=Modern Tanker NECT=Medium Tanker NOTSF=Small Tanker NLTSF=Small Tanker - WITH LIGHTS NSJT=Intermediate Tanker NNWP=Nipiwan Park-type Tanker NCOT=Coastal Tanker NOTCW=Whale Factory Ship NRC=Ore Carrier NLPL=Ocean Liner - WITH LIGHTS NPPL=Large Troop Ship NPTB=Small Ocean Liner NLUS=HMT Aquitania NCHT=Chatham-type Troop Ship NLOL=Ceramic-type Ocean Liner NKCA=Passenger/Cargo NPTR=Troop Ship NPTL=Large Passenger/Cargo - WITH LIGHTS NTR=Troop Transport NHSL=Hospital Ship NPRT=Cyclops-type Collier NGRA=Granville-type Freighter NKSEF=Coal Freighter Schute_M2=Small Coal Tender NKLSS_Hansa=Medium Hansa Freighter NKMCS_Hansa=Hansa Freighter NKMSS_Hansa=Hansa Type Freighter NLUS_Bremen=TS Bremen NLUS_Europa=TS Europa M35Hansa=Hansa Freighter NKGHAN=Large Hansa Freighter NPL_Hap=Small Passenger\Steamer NPL_KDF=KDF Steamer NPKDF=KDF Liner NPPL_Hansa=Hapag Liner NKSS_CAT=Cam Merchant NKSMM=Small Cargo __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Gamefront http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/bigboywooly

05-11-2012, 04:14 PM	#4
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,096 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	The list above isnt the Sea folder EnglishNames file IS the folder names of the ships in the Sea folder eg NLL=Liberty Cargo NLL is the folder name in the Sea folder LL is the cfg name in the roster files LL is the class name English names cfg shows LL=Liberty Cargo NTB_1924=Type 23-24 classes NTB_1924 is the folder name in the Sea folder TB1924 is the cfg name in the roster files TB1924 is the class name English names cfg shows TB1924=Type 23-24 classes I already did the hard work for you in that list __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Gamefront http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/bigboywooly

05-11-2012, 04:52 PM	#5
Wolfstriked Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 580 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	LOL,thats great stuff and here I thought I was onto something !!Wow,I figured out the morse code that is ever present in SH3. Sadly,my tuning for the day is over as I started drinking a few beers an hour ago and just now I got sea sick watching a new change.Modding is caput for the night...till tommorow when the modding but strikes again.

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05-11-2012, 03:44 PM	#3
Wolfstriked Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 580 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Thanks Bigboywooly...I already found that and thought it doesn't point to the actual folder I need.But its in code. I need to add an N to LSQ=Tramp Steamer to find it as its listed.... NLSQ=Tramp Steamer.Looks hard since GWX has a ton of ships!But I will try it out.

05-12-2012, 09:09 PM	#6
Wolfstriked Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 580 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Bigboywooly,any chance you can point me to the "small fishing boat".And is there a small ship code like first two letters signify the type....NL=medium merchant types etc?