U-boat pens like Das boot please!

[oscar19681]

When i first got sh-3 (Which i awaited so long to be released) i thought the whole dock look real detailed and great for a game of that time. the docks were pretty much alive but the u-boat pens didnt. What i would like to see this time is a busy sub pens a la das boot. Lots of people walking about torpedo,s being loaded. A german voice over the speakers inside the pens , repairs being performed. That would rock.

[Rockin Robbins]

I don't want ANYTHING like Das Boot! Give me a U-Boat like a real U-Boat. Give me a sub pen like a real sub pen. Give me a crew like a real German U-Boat crew. I want no part of a fake "Hollywood treatment" movie.

I want a sonar man who knows when an enemy escort is approaching, and from what bearing. I want him to tell me before I raise the scope to dramatically see him coming from nowhere to run me down accompanied by bombastic music. I want a crew that doesn't cower in the corner and whimper as they ignobly suffer through the horrors of dehumanizing war. German sailors weren't a bunch of simpering wimps. They were competent professionals who fought fiercely.

I want reality honored, not lampooned.

[oscar19681]

Uhm , You consider Das boot hollywoodish? You do realize there isnt a u-boat movie as realistic as Das Boot do you? And that almost all the events in the movie actually took place?

[paul_kingtiger]

Right, Das Boot isn't a Hollywood movie, it was made in Germany and carefully researched. Sure it isn't perfect, but it's pretty close and they went to great lengths to make it so.

The actors where trained to move around the boat like a real crew. The set was essentially perfect. There were no false walls so the camera can only shoot from a realistic angle.

I've read the boot, which was written by a real war correspondent who served on uboats. As always the book and film/series are different but there's nothing Hollywood about it.

If they make the game like Das Boot it's be a pretty amazing, and realistic game.

[Sonarman]

Strangely enough Buchheim author of the Das Boot book disagrees with you (and most of us here) he was not very satisfied with the film and actually stated that he felt the film version of his work was indeed "a cross between a "cheap, shallow American action flick" and a "contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II".

[Subnuts]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Strangely enough Buchheim author of the Das Boot book disagrees with you (and most of us here) he was not very satisfied with the film and actually stated that he felt the film version of his work was indeed "a cross between a "cheap, shallow American action flick" and a "contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II".

Well, Buchheim was kind of a pretentious douche. An awesome pretentious douche, but still...

[Akula4745]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Strangely enough Buchheim author of the Das Boot book disagrees with you (and most of us here) he was not very satisfied with the film and actually stated that he felt the film version of his work was indeed "a cross between a "cheap, shallow American action flick" and a "contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II".

Well that would validate RR's view of the film... still a good movie tho. But then I liked Star Wars too... so there is no accounting for taste.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Strangely enough Buchheim author of the Das Boot book disagrees with you (and most of us here) he was not very satisfied with the film and actually stated that he felt the film version of his work was indeed "a cross between a "cheap, shallow American action flick" and a "contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II".

On the other hand several u-boatmen were quoted in the '70s saying Buchheim's book was nothing like the war they experienced.

So everybody has an opinion. Mine agrees with RR's assessment in part: I found the men cowering in fear to be somewhat excessive, as soldiers and sailors tend to become stoic in bad situations. But then I thought the "All hands forward!" part was silly, until I read that the Germans actually did that. I do want to see the men acting like the warriors they were. Sure, some will panic, but the others will keep them in line.