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greyrider · 05-28-18, 06:22 PM

its ok to use the gun crew AI when on the surface, they should always be manned surfaced, but its much more of a gas to man them yourself, to really be effective, you should know how the gun sight works, there are things to know about the gun sight.
i loved destroyer command, playing as a united states destroyer in the pacific, the missions would throw tons of enemy aircraft at you, kates, betty's and zekes. betty's usually are flying to high to do anything about them , its much easier knocking the kates and zekes out of the sky.

one thing you really have to know is the gun sight tho, and how it works, usually an aircraft can be judged to be going either , slow, medium, or fast speed, there are 3 lead rings on the gun sight to model these three speeds.
the inner most lead ring is for aircraft going slow, the middle ring is for mediumn speed, and the outer, or largest ring is for fast speeds. aircraft can cross your line of sight, or come right at you.
first you have to judge the speed of the plane. a plane crossing the line of sight going slow, what you do is line up the plane on the edge of the smallest ring, thats the lead, just like torpedoes, you have to lead the target becus if you dont, when the bullets get out to the range of the plane, the plane will already have gone by, and you will miss, the middle ring is for medium speed targets, lining up the plane to lead it for medium speed. the largest ring is for the fast movers, lining them up on the edge of that lead ring, lining up aircraft with these rings applies the lead necessary to knock them out of the sky. judge the speed of the target and apply the lead that matches your estimation, and keep that lead until the plane has been shot down, or you have to reload.
when planes are coming right at you, you aim just a smidge above the nose of the aircraft dead center of the gun sight. hope that helps u understand the gun sight alittle bit better

well if im going to talk about the sight, i might as well say it all, along with lead rings, the sight is divided up with 12 lines, at 30 degrees, 60 degrees, 90 degrees and so on, those are there because assistent gunners might spot incoming that are more critical to hit than a current target or just before an attack, you can think of these lines as hours of the clock, the ag might see a target coming in at , and screams "zekes, 3 o'clock"! to the gunner who then knows where to turn the gun barrel in a hurry, those are aids to direction.

edit; first pic was labelled wrong, has been corrected, sorry

edit to edit....... the link did'nt work, i think i fixed it, very sorry

i forgot to mention that altitudes can also be given by the ag, such as in an old tv series i use to love back in the sixties called 12 o'clock high, about b-17 bombers planes in the air war over germany.
the gunners in the plane or pilots might spot incoming and warn other gunners by announcing (bandits, 1 o'clock high, or bandits, 7 o'clock low). for land based and ship based anti aircraft weapons, the low call of altitude is probably not used as much if at all, unless they wanted to shoot in the dirt or water, but the high call would definitely have significance and a height that the gunner can turn the gun to as well as a direction.

05-28-18, 06:22 PM	#11
greyrider Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: massachusetts Posts: 334 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	its ok to use the gun crew AI when on the surface, they should always be manned surfaced, but its much more of a gas to man them yourself, to really be effective, you should know how the gun sight works, there are things to know about the gun sight. i loved destroyer command, playing as a united states destroyer in the pacific, the missions would throw tons of enemy aircraft at you, kates, betty's and zekes. betty's usually are flying to high to do anything about them , its much easier knocking the kates and zekes out of the sky. one thing you really have to know is the gun sight tho, and how it works, usually an aircraft can be judged to be going either , slow, medium, or fast speed, there are 3 lead rings on the gun sight to model these three speeds. the inner most lead ring is for aircraft going slow, the middle ring is for mediumn speed, and the outer, or largest ring is for fast speeds. aircraft can cross your line of sight, or come right at you. first you have to judge the speed of the plane. a plane crossing the line of sight going slow, what you do is line up the plane on the edge of the smallest ring, thats the lead, just like torpedoes, you have to lead the target becus if you dont, when the bullets get out to the range of the plane, the plane will already have gone by, and you will miss, the middle ring is for medium speed targets, lining up the plane to lead it for medium speed. the largest ring is for the fast movers, lining them up on the edge of that lead ring, lining up aircraft with these rings applies the lead necessary to knock them out of the sky. judge the speed of the target and apply the lead that matches your estimation, and keep that lead until the plane has been shot down, or you have to reload. when planes are coming right at you, you aim just a smidge above the nose of the aircraft dead center of the gun sight. hope that helps u understand the gun sight alittle bit better well if im going to talk about the sight, i might as well say it all, along with lead rings, the sight is divided up with 12 lines, at 30 degrees, 60 degrees, 90 degrees and so on, those are there because assistent gunners might spot incoming that are more critical to hit than a current target or just before an attack, you can think of these lines as hours of the clock, the ag might see a target coming in at , and screams "zekes, 3 o'clock"! to the gunner who then knows where to turn the gun barrel in a hurry, those are aids to direction. edit; first pic was labelled wrong, has been corrected, sorry edit to edit....... the link did'nt work, i think i fixed it, very sorry i forgot to mention that altitudes can also be given by the ag, such as in an old tv series i use to love back in the sixties called 12 o'clock high, about b-17 bombers planes in the air war over germany. the gunners in the plane or pilots might spot incoming and warn other gunners by announcing (bandits, 1 o'clock high, or bandits, 7 o'clock low). for land based and ship based anti aircraft weapons, the low call of altitude is probably not used as much if at all, unless they wanted to shoot in the dirt or water, but the high call would definitely have significance and a height that the gunner can turn the gun to as well as a direction. __________________ Her gun crew had guts, however, for from her canting bow came a half dozen well-aimed rounds. How they pointed and trained their gun on that tilting platform will long remain a wonder, and their dedication in keeping up the fire until they went under would be a matter of pride to any nation. O'Kane, Richard. Clear the Bridge!: The War Patrols of the U.S.S. Tang Last edited by greyrider; 05-31-18 at 07:45 AM.