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Originally Posted by constablejimbuna

I swear to God an instantaneous red mist (your macular edema??) descended and without giving much thought I passed the trolley to the wife and 'fell' on him

Well I'm not overly familiar with Brit law but if your going to play the part of honorably retired C.O.P, at least have a set of cuffs on your person to demonstrate to tryers-of-fact that you're weren't assaulting the poor devil. Generally the shoplifter/thief must actually leave or attempt exit the shop to have committed the crime otherwise the benefit-of-the-doubt goes to him.(several years at Toy's-R-Us during Christmas madness-fake bottom boxes, collaborating cashiers etc). As U may recall in a PM from me, my intervention in a female street gang assault/mugging by 5+ large females kicking the bejeeezus out of another, prone in the fetal position covering her head with her arms, on the mean streets- 6th and Market- of SF while I engaged in another security matter. AT least I was baton, pistol and in uniform-cuffs equipped. In CA a 'shod foot' is considered a deadly weapon, so my options were limited-immediate intervention was required. Fortunately several large gentlemen stepped in to rescue me from the escalating situation; each escorting a 'lady' from the scene...saving a lot of paperwork. My wife was equally PO'd and since we're both prone to heartattack or lawsuits ...not wrong. needs U alive; desist in the future! The cow was already dead and red meat isn't good for U anyhow...next time just alert the management...you ol trooper!.