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Originally Posted by August
But you're assuming that everyone who has a gun on them will instantly draw it and begin spraying bullets around randomly the second the shooting starts, as if we are only a step down on the crazy scale from the killer himself.
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As Neal already said it would be difficult to spot the shooter in a mass of people, only those next to him would know who he is. In the next second some 7/X people who surround him have their guns in their hand. Then another five turn around and now see 8 people with a gun...
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Originally Posted by August
That's what the whole gun control argument boils down to, that Americans cannot be trusted with freedom so they must be made as harmless as possible. If that means that we make it easier for mass murderers and other violent criminals to commit their crimes then so be it. All hail the power of the state.
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But you already give all your power to the state. You have an election system like in medieval times, where "Churfuersten" elected the Kaiser. "We" have no direct democracy, nor do we have democracy at all by definition.
If it makes it more difficult for mass shooters and criminals to kill innocent people, the "power of the state" maybe not the badest thing of all.
If you crave for your freedom so much why are there speed limits? Or any laws or limitations? Freedom is a good thing as long as it does not harm your neighbour. You are only free when you are alone. And even then you have to bow to the laws of physics. Even if science, facts and reason are under assault over there, i know.
The best thing next to gun control could be a nation wide education system thought out by people who think generation-wide, before they order or decree something. Reasonable people who think about the not so immediate future, instead of spreading short-sighted populist bull.
So back on topic,
what could be done if we do not rule anything out? B.t.w. i have nothing against guns per se, i just do not think it is a good idea to let everyone have them. You say only answer is arming everyone, like Trump said, from teachers to nurses.
What else could work? 100 percent surveillance like in China? How fast could a cop react even if this could be implemented? Same as giving all power to the state b.t.w.
What will not work is repeating "Thoughts and prayers" ad nauseam, and doing nothing about a climate in a culture that seems to produce those shooters.