[Jimbuna]

An interesting opinion from another forum I frequent.

A second referendum with a vote to leave would finish things for good, but ain't going to happen.

People should be in no doubt that the other EU members, on a geopolitical level, don't like or care about us as a people, they just like our net contribution to their funds. There should have been no doubt from the beginning that we were going to get any kind of helpful Brexit deal- which might encourage others to follow our lead. If we leave and stop paying in, it means that the rest have either to pay in more to cover the loss, or make cutbacks- from their viewpoint detestable options that they're all spitting tacks about. None of them give 2 figs about UK jobs or our economic prospects, and if we chicken out now and go crawling back, the EU will rightly recognize that we are weak, spineless and all talk but no trousers. It will be an absolute charter to allow the EU to bully us about at make decisions that could be contrary to UK interests, because they will know without any doubt that whatever they do, however corrupt and wasteful the EU gets, we will stay as a member, put up with things and support their decisions with our on going membership and funding, no matter what.

We have no choice but to leave now. A couple of years ago we challenged them to a game of chicken, they have fought back hard as you would expect, and we have to keep our nerve to win at whatever cost as the alternative- giving in- will be even worse.

When we leave, at the very least it will force the rest to re-examine how the whole shoddy EU outfit is managed in the future.