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Old 03-28-18, 01:35 AM   #11
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^ Obama just did not do it so openly, you know he thought about what the world might think about America. But maybe he just listened to one or two experts.

Regarding Obama bashing: Obama helped initialise the arabian spring, he tried to build up trust in the arabian world, he finally got Bin Laden, and he almost tied the Ukraina to the west; some of it did not work out mostly because of how the US had behaved in decades before, and some secret service screw-ups. However this is much more than some other presidents achieved. And other than Trump, he was no loose cannon on deck.

Regarding a provocation or an intentional breaching of territorial waters it was either aggressive behaviour aka willy waving, or a navigational error (incompetence). It also seems the engine of the rivererine command boat broke down at the wrong time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U...naval_incident
You can of course blame it all on Obama.

But do you think that being openly aggressive is what makes a country?
You must really admire North Korea, China and Turkey then. I left out Russia, because its reluctant way is more like Obama behaved
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