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Threadfin · 10-13-14, 08:03 PM

Thanks very much. I don't think I have been satisfied with the awards system in any version of Silent Hunter that I've played. For example in TMO, if I sink 40k in the first patrol, I should be getting a Navy Cross, but the sim insists on starting you at the lowest award and working up.

In Operation Monsun it isn't as bad, but the awards for U-Boat skippers should include the Knight's Cross, then with Oak Leaves, then Swords, then Diamonds and finally the Golden Oak Leaves Swords and Diamonds. The Knight's Cross is awarded in OM, but the succeeding grades are not represented. However, the actual medal as shown in the sim is indeed the Golden Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds. But there is no progression of each grade, and it is described as simply the Knight's Cross. In addition, you can win it repeatedly.

Here is a breakdown of each of the 15 completed patrols in this career so far with starting and end dates, ships sunk/tonnage (with capital ship sunk), rank advancement if applicable and award.

Patrol 1 (Kiel) -- Sept 3, 1939 to Oct 22, 1939
7/57,305 (Illustrious Fleet Carrier)
Oberleutnant zur See (starting rank)
Knight's Cross

Patrol 2 -- (Kiel) -- Nov 6, 1939 to Dec 18, 1939
7/35,585
Knight's Cross

Patrol 3 -- (Kiel) -- Jan 16, 1940 to Mar 6,1940
8/56,417
Kapitänleutnant
Knight's Cross

Patrol 4 -- (Kiel) -- Apr 10, 1940 to May 22, 1940
5/33,220
Iron Cross 2nd Class

Patrol 5 -- (Kiel) -- Jun 26, 1940 to Aug 25, 1940
9/97,115 (HMS Hood Battlecruiser)
Knight's Cross

Patrol 6 -- (Kiel) -- Sep 15, 1940 to Nov 9, 1940
8/44,655
Korvettenkapitän
Knight's Cross

Patrol 7 -- (St Nazaire) -- Dec 14, 1940 to Feb 23, 1941
5/31,365
Knight's Cross

Patrol 8 -- (St Nazaire) -- Mar 12, 1941 to May 13, 1941
3/42,340 (Queen Elizabeth Battleship)
Iron Cross 1st Class

Patrol 9 -- (St Nazaire) -- Jun 21,1941 to Aug 24, 1941
5/25,685
Knight's Cross

Patrol 10 -- (St Nazaire) -- Sep 28, 1941 to Nov 23, 1941
5/56,315 (HMS Rodney Battleship)
Iron Cross 1st Class

Patrol 11 -- (St Nazaire) -- Dec 26, 1941 to Apr 24, 1942
3/23,975
No Award

Patrol 12 -- (La Spezia) -- May 28, 1942 to Aug 15, 1942
8/33,279
Knight's Cross

Patrol 13 -- (La Spezia) -- Sep 20, 1942 to Dec 8, 1942
9/46,600
Fregattenkapitän
Knight's Cross

Patrol 14 -- (La Spezia) -- Jan 12, 1943 to Mar 16, 1943
14/68,960
Iron Cross 1st Class

Patrol 15 -- (La Spezia) -- Mar 31, 1943 to Apr 10, 1943
5/40,835
Iron Cross 2nd Class

So the awards are a bit unpredictable. The Iron Cross on patrol 14 is a bit puzzling as it was the most ships sunk during any patrol and the second-most tonnage. Patrol 10 was considerably better than patrol 9, but the award much lower. And I would prefer to have the Knight's Cross be awarded in grade, as opposed to it being awarded again and again. It appears the German Cross is not in OM, or perhaps I just haven't qualified at any point for this medium-grade award.

There is one rank I have not attained, Kapitän zur See.

10-13-14, 08:03 PM	#12
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,075 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Thanks very much. I don't think I have been satisfied with the awards system in any version of Silent Hunter that I've played. For example in TMO, if I sink 40k in the first patrol, I should be getting a Navy Cross, but the sim insists on starting you at the lowest award and working up. In Operation Monsun it isn't as bad, but the awards for U-Boat skippers should include the Knight's Cross, then with Oak Leaves, then Swords, then Diamonds and finally the Golden Oak Leaves Swords and Diamonds. The Knight's Cross is awarded in OM, but the succeeding grades are not represented. However, the actual medal as shown in the sim is indeed the Golden Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds. But there is no progression of each grade, and it is described as simply the Knight's Cross. In addition, you can win it repeatedly. Here is a breakdown of each of the 15 completed patrols in this career so far with starting and end dates, ships sunk/tonnage (with capital ship sunk), rank advancement if applicable and award. Patrol 1 (Kiel) -- Sept 3, 1939 to Oct 22, 1939 7/57,305 (Illustrious Fleet Carrier) Oberleutnant zur See (starting rank) Knight's Cross Patrol 2 -- (Kiel) -- Nov 6, 1939 to Dec 18, 1939 7/35,585 Knight's Cross Patrol 3 -- (Kiel) -- Jan 16, 1940 to Mar 6,1940 8/56,417 Kapitänleutnant Knight's Cross Patrol 4 -- (Kiel) -- Apr 10, 1940 to May 22, 1940 5/33,220 Iron Cross 2nd Class Patrol 5 -- (Kiel) -- Jun 26, 1940 to Aug 25, 1940 9/97,115 (HMS Hood Battlecruiser) Knight's Cross Patrol 6 -- (Kiel) -- Sep 15, 1940 to Nov 9, 1940 8/44,655 Korvettenkapitän Knight's Cross Patrol 7 -- (St Nazaire) -- Dec 14, 1940 to Feb 23, 1941 5/31,365 Knight's Cross Patrol 8 -- (St Nazaire) -- Mar 12, 1941 to May 13, 1941 3/42,340 (Queen Elizabeth Battleship) Iron Cross 1st Class Patrol 9 -- (St Nazaire) -- Jun 21,1941 to Aug 24, 1941 5/25,685 Knight's Cross Patrol 10 -- (St Nazaire) -- Sep 28, 1941 to Nov 23, 1941 5/56,315 (HMS Rodney Battleship) Iron Cross 1st Class Patrol 11 -- (St Nazaire) -- Dec 26, 1941 to Apr 24, 1942 3/23,975 No Award Patrol 12 -- (La Spezia) -- May 28, 1942 to Aug 15, 1942 8/33,279 Knight's Cross Patrol 13 -- (La Spezia) -- Sep 20, 1942 to Dec 8, 1942 9/46,600 Fregattenkapitän Knight's Cross Patrol 14 -- (La Spezia) -- Jan 12, 1943 to Mar 16, 1943 14/68,960 Iron Cross 1st Class Patrol 15 -- (La Spezia) -- Mar 31, 1943 to Apr 10, 1943 5/40,835 Iron Cross 2nd Class So the awards are a bit unpredictable. The Iron Cross on patrol 14 is a bit puzzling as it was the most ships sunk during any patrol and the second-most tonnage. Patrol 10 was considerably better than patrol 9, but the award much lower. And I would prefer to have the Knight's Cross be awarded in grade, as opposed to it being awarded again and again. It appears the German Cross is not in OM, or perhaps I just haven't qualified at any point for this medium-grade award. There is one rank I have not attained, Kapitän zur See. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit? Last edited by Threadfin; 10-13-14 at 09:08 PM.