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Commander Wallace · 07-02-17, 09:36 AM

Thanks Dave Kay for bringing this story to the attention of the readers of the Subsim forums. This really is a tragic story. Years ago, There was a Tench Class Submarine in Tampa Florida, the Requin, that fell into a state of disrepair.

Senator John Heinz of the Heinz Ketchup, pickles and condiments family, now deceased, worked hard to bring the Requin to the Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh, Pa.

I traveled to Pittsburgh for a wedding and took time out to visit the Carnegie Science Center and of course, the Submarine. In spite of being moored on the Ohio River which is inhospitable, icy and cold in winter, the Submarine was in excellent shape and lovingly maintained. The Requin is treated and regarded as a centerpiece of the Science Center and everyone I met involved with the Submarine, including maintenance personnel, were enthusiastic in answering questions and taking people on tours.

http://www.carnegiesciencecenter.org...uin-submarine/

http://www.hnsa.org/hnsa-ships/uss-requin-ss-481/

I'm hoping a similar scenario develops for the Ling with a science center around the country in conjunction with a Naval Veteran's group. The Ling is a veteran itself and should be regarded and treated as such.

Maybe something was learned in letting the most decorated American Naval vessel languish and eventually be broken up for razor blades. I am of course referring to the " Big E " or CV-6 U.S.S Enterprise.

Quote:
"The carrier that fought the most through the entire war..."
Dedicatory Plaque, Enterprise Tower, U.S. Naval Academy

Enterprise entered World War II on the morning of December 7, 1941, when her scout planes encountered the Japanese squadrons attacking Pearl Harbor. Not until May 14, 1945, when a Kamikaze attack off Kyushu, Japan, left a gaping hole in her flight deck, was she forced to leave the war.

Of the more than twenty major actions of the Pacific War, Enterprise engaged in all but two. Her planes and guns downed 911 enemy planes; her bombers sank 71 ships, and damaged or destroyed 192 more. Her presence inspired both pride and fear: pride in her still unmatched combat record, and fear in the knowledge that Enterprise and hard fighting were never far apart.
The most decorated ship of the Second World War, Enterprise changed the very course of a war she seemed to have been expressly created for.

Naval Veterans are still bitter about the demise of the Enterprise, not from enemy actions but rather the actions of short sighted politicians.

Quote : Subsequent attempts were made at preserving the ship as a museum or memorial, but fund-raising efforts failed to raise enough money to buy the vessel from the Navy, and the "Big E" was sold on 1 July 1958 to the Lipsett Corporation of New York City for scrapping at Kearny, New Jersey. A promise was made to save the distinctive tripod mast for inclusion in the Naval Academy's new football stadium, but was never fulfilled; instead, a memorial plaque was installed at the base of what is still called "Enterprise Tower." Scrapping was complete as of May 1960.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CV-6%29

With most ships of the American Pacific Fleet destroyed or heavily damaged after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7th of 1941, it was up to the Submarines and their brave crews to carry the fight until the civilian run industries could be mobilized to support war time production of tank, ships, Submarines....

Although the Ling wasn't Involved in the war effort as other ships due to her late construction date and commissioning, it still stands as a testament to the brave men that crewed these vessels. Hopefully, Intervention will prevent the Ling from becoming another victim of short shortsightedness.

07-02-17, 09:36 AM	#5
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,017 Downloads: 360 Uploads: 0	Thanks Dave Kay for bringing this story to the attention of the readers of the Subsim forums. This really is a tragic story. Years ago, There was a Tench Class Submarine in Tampa Florida, the Requin, that fell into a state of disrepair. Senator John Heinz of the Heinz Ketchup, pickles and condiments family, now deceased, worked hard to bring the Requin to the Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh, Pa. I traveled to Pittsburgh for a wedding and took time out to visit the Carnegie Science Center and of course, the Submarine. In spite of being moored on the Ohio River which is inhospitable, icy and cold in winter, the Submarine was in excellent shape and lovingly maintained. The Requin is treated and regarded as a centerpiece of the Science Center and everyone I met involved with the Submarine, including maintenance personnel, were enthusiastic in answering questions and taking people on tours. http://www.carnegiesciencecenter.org...uin-submarine/ http://www.hnsa.org/hnsa-ships/uss-requin-ss-481/ I'm hoping a similar scenario develops for the Ling with a science center around the country in conjunction with a Naval Veteran's group. The Ling is a veteran itself and should be regarded and treated as such. Maybe something was learned in letting the most decorated American Naval vessel languish and eventually be broken up for razor blades. I am of course referring to the " Big E " or CV-6 U.S.S Enterprise. Quote: "The carrier that fought the most through the entire war..." Dedicatory Plaque, Enterprise Tower, U.S. Naval Academy Enterprise entered World War II on the morning of December 7, 1941, when her scout planes encountered the Japanese squadrons attacking Pearl Harbor. Not until May 14, 1945, when a Kamikaze attack off Kyushu, Japan, left a gaping hole in her flight deck, was she forced to leave the war. Of the more than twenty major actions of the Pacific War, Enterprise engaged in all but two. Her planes and guns downed 911 enemy planes; her bombers sank 71 ships, and damaged or destroyed 192 more. Her presence inspired both pride and fear: pride in her still unmatched combat record, and fear in the knowledge that Enterprise and hard fighting were never far apart. The most decorated ship of the Second World War, Enterprise changed the very course of a war she seemed to have been expressly created for. Naval Veterans are still bitter about the demise of the Enterprise, not from enemy actions but rather the actions of short sighted politicians. Quote : Subsequent attempts were made at preserving the ship as a museum or memorial, but fund-raising efforts failed to raise enough money to buy the vessel from the Navy, and the "Big E" was sold on 1 July 1958 to the Lipsett Corporation of New York City for scrapping at Kearny, New Jersey. A promise was made to save the distinctive tripod mast for inclusion in the Naval Academy's new football stadium, but was never fulfilled; instead, a memorial plaque was installed at the base of what is still called "Enterprise Tower." Scrapping was complete as of May 1960. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CV-6%29 With most ships of the American Pacific Fleet destroyed or heavily damaged after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7th of 1941, it was up to the Submarines and their brave crews to carry the fight until the civilian run industries could be mobilized to support war time production of tank, ships, Submarines.... Although the Ling wasn't Involved in the war effort as other ships due to her late construction date and commissioning, it still stands as a testament to the brave men that crewed these vessels. Hopefully, Intervention will prevent the Ling from becoming another victim of short shortsightedness. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 07-02-17 at 10:51 AM.