[August]

Not that this has anything to do with the Russians shooting down yet another civilian airliner but I have to wonder about these local independence movements.

Take the Bavaria example, erm, for example, what happens if opposition to independence is concentrated geographically and who draws the boundaries?
If Middle Franconia or even just the citizens of Nuremburg and Ansbach lean (90%) toward remaining a part of Germany does the Bavarian independence movement accept the geographic split or hole it would create in their new country in order for them to get the same right to self determination the Bavarians are demanding for themselves or would they crush these counter revolutionaries like has almost always happened in these situations.