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Old 07-19-14, 10:22 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! View Post
Shouldn't be too hard to find out. The region where the plain went down is a war zone.
Recon and Intel would be at a very high level right around the clock.
Someone has seen something.
Whether they will to reveal their recce skills by showing what they know, is something different. Likely leading to politicians claiming that "we know", without proving it by robust evidence.

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Delivered by Russia? Well since it's russian built it had to have been delivered at some stage.
Lets not mess that one up, else we end up like the Americans in Iraq 2003 - claiming they found traces of chemical weapons and that there have been weapons and hoaa - weapons! , while nobody ever had denied that Iraq had chemicals for sure years before the invasion - and got rid of them years before the invasion. Ukraine is known to operate around 60 Buk systems.

BTW, my NATO reference was misled, it seems. Since the M1 and M2 versions were introduced for the Buk, NATO has relabelled the Buk as SA-17 Grizzly (Gollum for the navy version). A new model, the M3, is entering production this year.
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