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Catfish · 05-14-19, 04:14 AM

So regarding those who are not just too lazy and dumb, what real political vaild concerns are there?

Immigration?
Well how do other countries handle immigration? Is it better how it is handled in, say, Russia? Are immigrants a real problem or aren't certain people playing with the people's fears and exagerrating, while exploiting good old xenophobia? Is that better than a reasonable handling and calm thinking ahead how to find solutions?
Do you think that e.e exporting weapons to the Middle East will reduce the numbers of fugitives?

Bureaucracy?
The whole EU has less than 10 percent of the number of bureaucrats England alone has. And they are elected. To say they are not is one of Farage's dearest lies.

What else?
What is so bad about the EU? No wars for almost 75 years? Wealth? Wellbeing? International trade? Products that can be afforded by anyone? Workers rights?
Lacking nationalist patriotism? You would have a point there, the EU is indeed against nationalism, jingoism and xenophobia. Maxims like "Our nation is the greatest" and "To hell with all foreigners" is not a core concept here anymore. Too bad. For some nations that would prefer discord and conflict in the EU for their own nationalist goals.

I do not think that you (or Russia for that matter) believe in any of this of course, it is just a means of disinformation, to divert from reality; just pointing out Russia's interest in exploiting and influencing.

Like:
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goal of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political or social discord in the United States." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...ates_elections)

You can see how successful all this has been. England and the US have never been so divided as they are now. Next try: the EU.

I have nothing against Russia, i also think Putin is an intelligent man. Gandhi also was. And Stalin. It is just all so backwards and almost medieval, for some time we had observed humanity having escaped the dark ages. But we still have to learn, and we will see.

edit: Do you really think it is in Russia's interest to have more educated people in Europe, seeing the real problems of the EU, and find a solution?

05-14-19, 04:14 AM	#5
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,898 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	So regarding those who are not just too lazy and dumb, what real political vaild concerns are there? Immigration? Well how do other countries handle immigration? Is it better how it is handled in, say, Russia? Are immigrants a real problem or aren't certain people playing with the people's fears and exagerrating, while exploiting good old xenophobia? Is that better than a reasonable handling and calm thinking ahead how to find solutions? Do you think that e.e exporting weapons to the Middle East will reduce the numbers of fugitives? Bureaucracy? The whole EU has less than 10 percent of the number of bureaucrats England alone has. And they are elected. To say they are not is one of Farage's dearest lies. What else? What is so bad about the EU? No wars for almost 75 years? Wealth? Wellbeing? International trade? Products that can be afforded by anyone? Workers rights? Lacking nationalist patriotism? You would have a point there, the EU is indeed against nationalism, jingoism and xenophobia. Maxims like "Our nation is the greatest" and "To hell with all foreigners" is not a core concept here anymore. Too bad. For some nations that would prefer discord and conflict in the EU for their own nationalist goals. I do not think that you (or Russia for that matter) believe in any of this of course, it is just a means of disinformation, to divert from reality; just pointing out Russia's interest in exploiting and influencing. Like: "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goal of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political or social discord in the United States." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...ates_elections) You can see how successful all this has been. England and the US have never been so divided as they are now. Next try: the EU. I have nothing against Russia, i also think Putin is an intelligent man. Gandhi also was. And Stalin. It is just all so backwards and almost medieval, for some time we had observed humanity having escaped the dark ages. But we still have to learn, and we will see. edit: Do you really think it is in Russia's interest to have more educated people in Europe, seeing the real problems of the EU, and find a solution? __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 05-14-19 at 04:48 AM.*