I'm gonna try that free trial, good looking out there Ilpalazzo. Thanks for the replys everyone, after reading this think I'm gonna get it, I'm not so much into arcade style shooters as realistic ones, I don't need to put the one hitter quitter in anyone to have fun, personally I prefer the shoot and move games. I'll look into that DoD game too though, who knows, maybe I'll have to compromise and get both.