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Catfish · 09-19-21, 02:09 PM

^ "The French must see there is no point in wailing about having been shoddily treated. They were."

"But the second painful truth exposed by the Aukus affair is that the US no longer has any great interest in the outdated behemoth that is Nato. Nor does it harbour any particular loyalty to those who have stood by its side."

"So what can France do?
Accept realities. Try to form ad hoc alliances (like Macron was indeed trying to do in the Indo-Pacific). Keep pushing the Germans to get over their 20th Century complexes and act like the power they really are."

Time to restructure the brain-dead NATO without the US indeed. And maybe without the UK.

09-19-21, 02:09 PM	#42
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ "The French must see there is no point in wailing about having been shoddily treated. They were." "But the second painful truth exposed by the Aukus affair is that the US no longer has any great interest in the outdated behemoth that is Nato. Nor does it harbour any particular loyalty to those who have stood by its side." "So what can France do? Accept realities. Try to form ad hoc alliances (like Macron was indeed trying to do in the Indo-Pacific). Keep pushing the Germans to get over their 20th Century complexes and act like the power they really are." Time to restructure the brain-dead NATO without the US indeed. And maybe without the UK. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.