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Originally Posted by Driftwood
OK, OK Gorshkov. So you don't like the Lwami mod. We get it. Now why don't you take your 65 cm torpedo and whatever else it is you're whining about and ...................brighten someone else's day? Huh?
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Maybe you don't care about reality but I can't understand why you back LWAMI mod which even deepens falsehood already included in stock DW??? Thus real SET-53M torpedo is only a passive acoustic weapon but Sonalaysts gave it additional active seeker. Later our Lufty made the scene with his "uber-realistic" mod and replaced SET-53M with a lot more powerful but virtually non-existent Yu-8 torpedo!
What does this two-stage cheat have something in common with reality???
I am not sure but it looks like someone tries to improve Chinese military capabilities here. Moreover that guy remembers another guys from Pentagon who also constantly far exaggerate PRC military power apparently to finagle additional funds from US Congress...
Unfortunately guys but real Chinese military potential is weak. Indigenous weapon development in this country shows limited progress. Many recently self-made Chinese arms are twenty to thirty years behind Western and even Russian designs. The J-10 fighter jet built around Russian radar and engine is the best example. Vast majority of new weapon technologies possessed by China has been acquired from Russia and other post-Soviet republics both legally and illegally. The main reason is simple: China lacks military industrial complex similar to those created long time ago in US and USSR. I personally think PRC lacks resources to build such complex now without risk of putting its economy in jeopardy! Moreover after massive withdrawal of badly outdated weapon systems from PRC arsenal Chinese armed forces will shrink quantitatively even up to the Cold War's French or German armies level!
Is that this new rising superpower, dear Mr. Rumsfeld?
Particularly Chinese torpedoes except a few also not brand-new models imported from Russia seem to be forty years old junk. Although PRC showed a big effort to pirate many Russian and Western torpedo models like Mk.48 for twenty years but without achieving any visible success. Therefore it is very strange that poor Lufty endeavors to change true by force in that area.
If PLAN has only crappy torpedoes in reality, let PLAN have them in this game!
Otherwise if we agree on "two-stage torpedo cheat" backed by some strange "what-if" scenarios, why Russian 650 mm universal torpedo wouldn't be reality now??? In fact declassified CIA papers from 1980s describe Soviet development plans for advanced universal 650 mm fish based on earlier wake-homing 65-76 model! It probably was an unfinished Soviet "overkill" answer for contemporary ADCAP's introduction into US Navy. Under such criteria stock "65 cm torpedo" is more founded in this game than Lufty's Yu-8 sci-fi! :rotfl: