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Old 05-30-18, 07:44 AM   #3206
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re Skybird

Unfortunately all sides use the same tactics.
Remember Nelson Mandela also was a "terrorist", for England.

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The one side accepts a certain ammount of collateral damages, and goes long ways - too long ways, for my taste - to avoid them. [...] .
I know what you mean, but you are naive if you think our "good" side does not have those tiled cellars with its special tools, and uses any means. Think of those CIA planes to Poland and elsewhere, so the holy US ground is not being poisoned when torturing.

I guess torturing in 'export' countries solves those "ethical questions", or even more important: evade possible local law suits. Trump himself has again said that he supports torture, and it is stilll being done, not only in Guantanamo.
No, the US is not the only one of course. I would try to steer clear from e.g. Turkish or Israeli prison camps as well.

Certain people with certain mindsets will always find their way into those special 'appointments', all over the world.
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