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Old 05-04-17, 06:10 AM   #217
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Their identity is their religion, has always been until 1947. There was the Kingdom of Judah bordering to the Kingdom of Israel, some jews in Persia, err "Iran" lol. The city states inhabited by "jews" thousands of years ago were surrounded by lots of other city states inhabited by all other kinds of tribes and religions and opinions why to slaughter their neighbour, all battling and scrapping against each other, and then Rome against all. It was not "their" land. They have the same right to settle there as anyone else.
It is a very dumb notion to claim "your" country and "blood" only because you are born a mile east or west of a border, river, or channel, or in another country's city state some thousand years ago. Genetics will tell you.

I can perfectly understand the jews' urge and the necessity to finally have an own nation of "Israel", so all jews can live there without being harrassed or chased in foreign lands. But give the same right to those who have lived there for millenia, too. I do not see a two-state solution coming, instead all went haywire with the assassination of Rabin just of all by a right-wing israeli, followed just of all by a right-wing government trying to justify illegal settling in regions not exactly belonging to Israel. So you say Germany should be quiet about all this because "the past"? Wasn't it you just saying "we are too servile"? Depends, eh?

Germany will support Israel without question, and imho rightly so, but do not mistake them for angels. Maybe reading "The little drummer girl" would be in order, to understand both sides.
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