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Old 07-23-15, 07:49 AM   #15
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I was offered a new boat and turned it down. The conning tower upgrade was forced on my Sargo class. I had to use renown to repurchase surface and air radar. The surface radar was installed, but the boat acted as if it wasn't installed. I left port, turned around and ended my patrol. Radar still showed as installed. Left for another patrol and the radar still won't work. Any suggestions or do I have to scrap the entire war career?

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You've got some good information here:

*Using a Sargo sub.
*Was offered to repurchase Radar (meaning you had working Radar with other conning tower?).
*Showed you had SJ (Surface Search) Radar installed, yet it wasn't able to be turned "on" when on patrol.

I've got a few more questions.

-What year/month did you start your game?
-What year/month did the conning tower upgrade take place?
-From where (which port)?
-Was this the first conning tower change made to your Sargo? I can post a few pictures of the Sargo conning towers to have you tell me which conning tower you had, and which one you received.

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One of the issues with the game is understanding what they didn't do with the radar. For all of us, the two different radar screens (A-Scope and the PPI) both are only for "Surface" radar (SJ) use. Not "Air" radar (SD) use. The SD Air Radar is on all boats at the start of the war, yet there is no "screen" to use to actually see it in action. You are notified by your Radar man that planes are approaching by reading the Message text, or you CAN see the planes on your Navigation Map screen if a mod hasn't removed the icons (like TMO does). But, your two Radar Stations won't show air planes UNLESS you have a mod that puts them on your screen (which OTC does).

To make it even more confusing, just because you have the ability to go to the two different radar stations and actually see them on your boat......doesn't mean they are actually there!! No sub at the war beginning (December 7, 1941) has a working SJ radar (even though the units are physically installed on your boats). You can go to their stations, see them turned off, yet you can't turn them on. The point is the dev's forgot to enable "covers" for the units (which by the way, are modeled in the files) to cover the units when you don't have them actually installed on the boat. But, this function doesn't work, they didn't write the proper script to make it happen, and we can't modify it.

So, you've got the two surface search radar units showing on the boat in the conning tower (or in the command room if its an S-Class sub) yet they won't turn "on" until the magic date of around mid 1942. Which is historically when all boats were given a chance to install the SJ units.....the A-Scope and PPI stations. Remember, the SD air search radar is already installed on the game's subs at the start of the war....it just doesn't use the two stations to inform you of an approaching plane. The Message text is all we get, or the Navigation Map would if a mod hasn't changed the stock function.

More to the point, I'm suspecting there's some dates being out of wack with the conning tower upgrades, or the tower unit equipment files are messed up. Either way, there may or may not be a way of fixing the problem of keeping radar after a new tower upgrade. It could be like the two radar station "covers" that were never scripted to be placed over the units when you shouldn't have SJ radar installed......can't be modified to work as expected.
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