MING class adaption to the romeo obsolete by far and well most havnt seen the open see in years crews very untrained and very lacking in skills

easy to detect and destroy so no problem unless you got one bright assed skipper :|\ be nice to see it in DW

It may be obsolete, but it should be in actual use in the PLAN. :D

The Mings still go to sea, but have had several accidents. One about a year and a half ago caused the death of its entire crew (In the Yellow Sea, one a month ago had to be towed back to port durring a war game.

"Enter service with the PLAN, see the beautiful seabed"? :nope:

i know they are used still but as TLAM said there have been many accidents

on average the chinease loose one submarine per year due to well anything lack of maintanance etc even russia hasnt got that high a loss rate :o

casualties include a xia SSBN as well as numerous mings and romeo's surprised her whole fleet hasnt sunk