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Happy Times 11-26-07 04:09 PM

Any tips on BF 109?
 
This is the plane i love and want to be good in. Any tips or links to guides for a noob that comes first in your mind are welcomed.:up:
I read some basics before starting flight training, i know its a boom&zoom plane. Is there anywhere stats on different models and its commont opponents, turn&climb rate etc...?:hmm:

Dowly 11-26-07 04:13 PM

many allied planes can out-turn the 109, so pretty much the only tactic is the Boom&Zoom. :yep:

XabbaRus 11-26-07 04:28 PM

Says he who fights in WoE in the weeds :)

Dowly 11-26-07 04:33 PM

Atleast I fight in there. :p

Chock 11-26-07 05:27 PM

You might want to read this review of the shockwave bf109E by me, it is based closely on the characteristics of the real bf109:

http://www.avsim.com/pages/1107/bf109/bf109.htm

The main plus points of it are: fuel injection so it doesn't lose power when suddenly pushed into negative G nosedives; good low speed control, owing to the automatic slats and variable flaps which can be used in combat unlike a lot of other WW2 fighters, also easier to recover from a spin than most other WW2 fighters and stalls quite gently; good concentrated firepower which rewards accurate shooting up close; small cross-section makes it slightly better for head on attacks, as you present a smaller target; well harmonised controls throughout a wide range of the flight regime; better suited to combat than most contemporary RAF fighters in the Battle of Britain owing to it's less complex engine/prop management in combat situations; it was very serviceable, an engine switch could be done in 12 minutes.

The main minus points are: can be unstable in an uncoordinated turn, owing to uneven slat deployment; ammunition it fired was of a low muzzle velocity, causing cannon shells to explode on contact rather than penetrate and then explode, cockpit visibility was poor in comparison to other fighters; trickier to take-off and land than many other contemporary WW2 fighters, owing to the narrow track landing gear and CoG being quite far back when at high fuel loads, undercarriage was also a little weak; it was noisier than most other WW2 fighter in the cockpit; it had no rudder trimmer and no geared tabs, so it was tiring to fly it for long periods and it always requires a good bootful of rudder to keep it straight; the coolant system was vulnerable to enemy fire; it was hard to get it out of a high speed dive, the elevators became very heavy under high aerodynamic loads; it used 87 octane fuel as opposed to the 100 octane fuel of most Allied aircraft, making it more prone to pre-ignition; slab-sided canopy would often reflect the sun and betray its position.

:D Chock

Happy Times 11-28-07 05:19 PM

Thank you for your replies.:)

I found these.
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/109myths/

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

My love gets stronger.:lol:

PS. Cool pictures and paint schemes if Dowly hasnt seen them yet.

Dowly 11-28-07 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Times
PS. Cool pictures and paint schemes if Dowly hasnt seen them yet.

Already have the 109Lair on my bookmarks, thanks anyway. ;)

Skybird 11-28-07 06:23 PM

While we are at the Bf109:

pics:
http://www.aerosoft.de/_php_projekte/_php_screenshots2/screenshots.php?sp=fsx&p=flight1messerschmitt

http://www.aerosoft.de/cgi-local/rd/iboshop.cgi?showd,,10555

Reaves 11-28-07 09:09 PM

Speed and height are your friends in a 109. Never get involved in a turning battle with a Spit or similar allied aircraft because they will turn tighter and be on your 6 in no time. Straight lines and head for the ceiling when being chased, you'll end up being able to regain any advantage as long as you keep speed and height.

:arrgh!:

Stealth Hunter 11-29-07 12:56 AM

Careful with her engine. The BF-109 is a bugger that's notorious for having engine fires if hit by allied planes in the ticker.

She's also a pain in the ass for turning, so note that most other allied planes can outmaneuver her.

As Dowly said, your best bet is to "Boom & Zoom".

Dowly 11-29-07 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Careful with her engine. The BF-109 is a bugger that's notorious for having engine fires if hit by allied planes in the ticker.

Very good point. :up: Never really given a though on this one, but now when I do, I remember dozens of times when my engine' been the only part to give up under fire. :hmm:

But overall the engine is pretty good, you can blast away at 105% throttle and radiators open and the engine wont overheat. :up:

NiclDoe 11-30-07 06:44 AM

Thats why when the engines on fire and im near friendly lines i just get the feck out and hitch a ride home. Last time was 2 nights ago and some truck with fruit on it picked me up.


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