A few days ago I stumbled upon a great website concerning lighthouses and sea marks at the north- and balticsea coasts.
Check for example the information about Kiel and Heligoland.
Hoping that this cool project is still alive and since I know no better place, I will post the link here: www.baken-net.de

I know, that im answering about a year old post, but im reading this thread from first post...
If you want 20 km environment, install M.E.P. 6 (im not sure, but i think it was in v. 4.2 and later)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=229333&page=4

Hi guys, sorry for the late replies,

unfortunately Kendras can't answer any longer on this thread since, apparently, an infraction by him was sanctioned with what now seems a permanent ban from subsim. You can get in touch with him on his personal forum:

http://kendras-sh3-modding.forumactif.com/

Since our last update here, we have made little progress with this mod: the Ile-de-Sein was added to the SHIII world (though I think Kendras wasn't too happy with its last layout), new lighthouse icons have been created, and together with several unfinished lighthouse models, I have worked on a port light model that I sent to Kendras for him to add it to the French ports. After that, there was a long stand-by caused by real life engagements.

As some of you already know, I have now started a new project for SH5 which deals mostly with therrain/tree textures, but among its features there are also terrain shape improvements, more realistic ports, and the modelling of natural and human-made landmarks, including daymarks and lighthouses. I am in constant touch with Kendras, and be sure that whatever I do will be passed on to Kendras for porting to SHIII :yep:

@ Seaowl:

Glad to read your comments on this thread too!

@ JeromeHeretic:

Thank you for your information mate. I will save it for future reference. In the meanwhile you might find interesting the following website gathering information on lighthouses worldwide:

https://www.ibiblio.org/lighthouse/

:salute:

Registration to forum doesn't work to me. E-mail with code never come...


BTW: Also exist 20km unfficial patch for GWX: ftp://Maik:Woelfe@hartmuthaas.no-ip....phere_Unood.7z


Try it too... Im not sure now, but i have strong feeling, that in one, or in second environment is not changed values for visibility in binoculars and so (it's in zones.cfg i think.. not sure when i try remember now).
So... in case of some problems you can diff this files and get correct one, or just change needed values.


And THX for that link, but i already know it. :-) I have ready list with about 2000 lighthouses (but still there are bugs, i know it and slowly repairing) and written scripts for automatic generating of LND.mis, locations.cfg, SCR.mis. (because script recognition lightouses and lightboats)
I'm only waiting if you both will finish some more lighthouses, so i can generate world with different lighthouses on different places. Now i'm using just one lighthouse and GWX lightboats.


When we are talking about this, i have few ideas, but i don't know how to do it. Sure it is possible, but maybe it is needed for every mutation add new dat file to game, so only some reduced amount of variations is possible to add to game.
But if it is possible, i think it will be enough even in this reduced form.

I was looking to previously posted page: http://www.sailingissues.com/navcourse9.html and i got idea, that i like to have:


- Lighthouse with red light (as a marker to port side of route into the ports)
- I think, that "common" lighthouse used in game can be lighthouse which i have, with normal, long blinking white light.
But on the long coastal lines, where are a lot of lighthouses in some distances i want sometimes some specific lighthouse, from
which i can recognize where exactly i am. I know it already from transatlantic travels, that error of my position after transatlantic route is so big, that even if i find a lighthouse on horizont, im never sure which one it is...
So... idea is have few "morse" blinking lighthouses. I think that 4 "bit" table must be enough for everyone.
So when we look into morse code table, there are this possibilities for lighthouses:
B -...

C -.-.

F ..-.

H ....

L .---

Q --.-

V ...-

X -..-

Y -.--

Z --..
With lighthouse which i already have (lets call him "slow blinker") and when can be speed of blinking changed to quick, we have table of 12 unique lights (+ red one)!


So when i get the markings from that page, we can have FL, Q, MoB, MoC, MoF, MoH, MoL, MoQ, MoV, MoX, MoY, MoZ and Iso R.
Now question for you is, if it is possible? (Im sure just only about changing color of light, even if i don't know how to do it.)

EDIT:
Ah yes, i almost forget. In GWX are tugboats near lightboats. This is not looking much realistic, but it is great idea, because when you go on high TC and watch crew see a ship, TC falls to 1, so you know that you are near that lightboat!
Would be nice, if can be implemented, that watch crew reactions on lighthouse is the same as for ship. (Daesn't matter if crew say "ship spotted", it's not important that lighthouse is not a boat, is important, that i know about it and that TC falls to 1)
Is this possible? (Im afraid not... because it is "land unit", but better ask, than be silent and lost this functionality if it is possible)

Yeah I put the tugs near lightships as they are not noticed by crew so saving you collision.

You could make a lighthouse model and class it whatever you like. The icebergs get spotted as a ship so you don't hit them. Not ideal but otherwise at high tc you run the risk of collision

You'd need to play with the particles settings on the light houses to try to get the morse code thing.
Each Light house can be done separately so it should be possible.
I'd suggest leaving the rotating white light alone and adding your morse code blinker as a separate light with no rotation.
On top of the Light House perhaps as a red blinking light?

Or maybe a small light near the base to simulate someone on shore sending you a signal?
Danged spies!

Blah... i don't know this stuff. Im glad, that now i realise reverse direction in animation... that's why i was asking for it and not to do it by myself.
But THX for info... now i know it's possible.



I mean not as small light, but as main light of lighthouse. It is common, that lighthouses are blinking this codes.

I have a separate light house saved from the Game.
IF I get time amongst all the other stuff I'll play with it and see what I can do. Could come in handy added to other projects I have.

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Glad that you know it already. Very few lighthouse are not listed in the Lighthouse Directory, and it also provides general information and pictures of the active lights, as well as verbal and pictorial reference (when possible) of currently inactive or no longer existing lighthouses.

Yes, it is possible. As said by Jeff, by playing with light particle settings we can mimic even complex flashing schemes. Kendras is a master on this subject, but with some time and the help of a calculator, I can also handle this type of effects. The one lights that we couldn't find a way to reproduce so far, are sector lights: i.e. light beams that can only be seen when looking at them from some angles...

Terrain objects are not configurable, but if lighthouse models are set as land units rather than terrain objects, and if different light halos are stored in a library file, we can then link each lighthouse to any tipe of light effect (or even multiple effects) by use of equipment nodes. There are several advantages in this type of approach:

- Just like air and sea units, land units are handled by the AI; they can see and be seen by other units, attacked, and destroyed.

- they can be made to appear or disappear from the game based on date, simulating the destruction of some of them during the war.

- their lights, set as any other equipment, can be configured by date, simulating the change in usage (or the darkening) of some lights during the war.

Can't be way block light emission by some invisible barriers? Lets say, that you create two barriers in L and in the corner of this L you add light.
(But i think this is not so important. We can live without it.)

Kendras experimented with the sector lights, so I cannot enter in the details. I think he tried blocking the light by using some barriers (though I don't think they were invisible: how can an invisible object block the light? :hmm2:), but the result wasn't satisfactory.

I had another approach in mind though: my (untested) idea was creating a 3D world-aligned particle shaped as a narrow light cone. In theory we should see a dim light beam when looking at the light from the "dark" angles, and a glaring halo when looking at it from the "illuminated" angles. At least this is how I imagine leading lights; sector lights with colored sectors may look different than I described above.

Leading light are often realized as two lights behind, so if you have both lights in one point and change course to the light, you know, that you ride in right course . Just imagine line and two lights <>------------------*--------* ( "<>" - your ship, "*" light)

True, but similar to range lights (which they are often associated with), their light is commonly only visible from certain angles. As an example of that, here is a chart showing the Düne (Helgoland) leading lights:

https://i.imgur.com/FlMqHse.png

I understand, but there is so much lights and it is just Helgoland! I count for Helgoland with only one lighthouse.

I don't get your point here. You can give Helgoland any number of lighthouses you like, even zero. I was just making an example of a leading light coupled with a range light; a configuration found not only in Helgoland...

Well, i had on mind number of all lighthouses in the game.

@ Kendras
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/ima...aleun_Wink.gif
Le Phare de la Croix
https://www.wikiwand.com/fr/Phare_de...oix_(Le_Trieux)

Is it compatible with sh4? I mean model of lighthouse?