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artao 11-16-16 05:35 PM

Is there a way to force units to ONLY use depth charges?
 
I'm making a scenario in which i don't want "enemy" units to use anything but depth charges against the player, even if they have other weapons available. i.e. - "semi-neutral" surface craft trying to drive the player out of Soviet territorial waters, without actually killing the player.
Is there a way to do this?
I'm still trying to figure out doctrine and script languages.

Thanks! :)

p7p8 11-17-16 10:34 AM

You should do it by script:

http://i.imgur.com/Mu63gDe.jpg

FPSchazly 11-18-16 10:25 AM

I am most definitely a newbie map maker, but you may want to have the enemy ships keep peacetime ROE but of course be on an adversarial Side to the player. Keeping the peacetime ROE I believe would make it so the ships will only engage with depth charges via the scripting. If they have wartime ROE, they may take the initiative and start engaging with anything.

Also, can these boats sink the player (re: do you want these boats to be able to) or is this just for "effect"?

artao 11-18-16 04:13 PM

Thanks guys.
Learning the mission editor sure is an exercise in experimentation. :03:

Using depth charges could inherently sink a sub, sure. But I don't want it to be a "deliberate" act of sinking.

I think it's gonna take me awhile to get this mission playable. I may be biting off more than I can chew for a first foray into mission creation. Perhaps I should step back and make one or two simpler missions.

Stewy1 11-20-16 04:23 AM

I think, if I understand you right, you could just set up a trigger where if the frigate detects the submarine, you could play a depth-charge sound and then you won't be damaged (but you're still 'caught')

I sometimes include a message with this in the trigger like "XO: Conn, XO. We've been counter-detected."

Also, if you Google the International Code of Signals (1969) revised 2003 book, page 152 has the message procedure for the detection of US warships (submarines?) in Russian waters. That's fun to 'use' in radio messages upon counter-detection too!

It's also fun to 'escalate' the scenario if you're counter-detected - say, use a trigger to 50/50 whether the ROE is war/peace, set roe to war 30 minutes after detection, launch ASW aircraft to area after detection, etc.

:ping:

Cybermat47 11-20-16 07:06 AM

Wait, ships in DW have depth charges? I though they'd been phased out completely by the 1980s.

artao 11-20-16 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1 (Post 2447612)
Also, if you Google the International Code of Signals (1969) revised 2003 book, page 152 has the message procedure for the detection of US warships (submarines?) in Russian waters. That's fun to 'use' in radio messages upon counter-detection too!

It's also fun to 'escalate' the scenario if you're counter-detected - say, use a trigger to 50/50 whether the ROE is war/peace, set roe to war 30 minutes after detection, launch ASW aircraft to area after detection, etc.

:ping:

HEY!! That's pretty cool. Thanks. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2447625)
Wait, ships in DW have depth charges? I though they'd been phased out completely by the 1980s.

There are depth charges, but I'm not entirely sure what all ships/countries use them. A quick look shows me that at least the Grisha DDs have them.

Stewy1 11-20-16 04:43 PM

Oh yes, the depth-charges are very real - they're often what kills me if I'm detected by skimmers...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBU-6000

FPSchazly 11-20-16 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1 (Post 2447734)
Oh yes, the depth-charges are very real - they're often what kills me if I'm detected by skimmers...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBU-6000

To be fair, these are rocket-propelled depth charges and not like the slung-off-the-back-of-the-boat depth charges that people may first think of haha. Either way, still quite scary. I think they have a range of 6000 yards. The Cold Waters trailer actually shows them being fired.

artao 11-21-16 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1 (Post 2447734)
Oh yes, the depth-charges are very real - they're often what kills me if I'm detected by skimmers...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBU-6000

From the article: "It can also be used against divers ..."

SHEESH!!! :O
Talk about overkill. (pun intended) :k_confused:


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