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Gerald 05-31-18 06:14 AM

U.S. to slap tariffs on steel, aluminum from EU on Thursday: sources
 
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WASHINGTON/PARIS (Reuters) - Washington will announce plans to slap tariffs on EU steel and aluminum imports as early as Thursday morning, sources said, while the U.S. commerce secretary said any escalation of their trade dispute would depend on the bloc’s reaction.
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While not confirming directly that the U.S. would decide to impose tariffs, he said: “It’s up to the European Union to decide if it wants to take retaliatory measures. The next question would be: how will the (U.S.) President (Donald Trump) react? You saw his reaction when China decided to retaliate.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1IV2TN

It will hit hard to EU,if this come true.

STEED 06-01-18 07:05 AM

EU is a cry baby.

Schroeder 06-01-18 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2555407)
EU is a cry baby.

I remember you crying a lot about it so it must be true.:03:

Gerald 06-01-18 10:25 AM

Starting today, June 1st, 25 percent will be on steel and 10 percent for aluminum, as the US puts on the EU through these charges.

Skybird 06-01-18 11:14 AM

"Spiel über Bande" - hitting the EU, but the real target is the German trade surplus.


Germany wants to shy away and hope for the best, these good-hearted hopers, but retaliation plus X is needed. And if Trump strikes against that, retaliate again, this time plus X*2. Where only force is understood, it needs force to make oneself understood.

Highbury 06-01-18 11:27 AM

That tariff is also on Canada and Mexico, who have of course imposed tariffs of their own.

At least one consequence of this decision not sit well with the Trump base however, increased beer prices...

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-tariff...m-steel-828430

:Kaleun_Cheers:

Skybird 06-01-18 11:47 AM

The EU's list of products at which to strike have been choosen since their production focusses in states with strong political followership of and senators supporting the Donald.

Or so the EU hopes at least. :hmmm:

None of the six German submarines is operational currently, since 18 months or longer. Too bad timing. :arrgh!:

Catfish 06-01-18 03:43 PM

Pah when England declared war in 1939, Germany had nine operational submarines. And the new ones are even better (i mean, if they work :O:)

And who can take this talking turtle Wilbur Ross for serious?
Donald is still angry that his grandfather was denied a return to Germany, after he ran away from serving in the military.
Meanwhile we reacted with tarriffs on peanut butter. Take that, Donald!

But it is not as bad as it looks, i mean it is like in every marriage, now and then there are some bloody scraps, and murder... :O:

STEED 06-01-18 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2555486)
we reacted with tarriffs on peanut butter. Take that, Donald!


Well that should help the obesity problem we have. Have you seen the calories in that stuff! Oh wait a good idea from the EU...:o

Gerald 06-02-18 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2555464)
The EU's list of products at which to strike have been choosen since their production focusses in states with strong political followership of and senators supporting the Donald.

Or so the EU hopes at least. :hmmm:

None of the six German submarines is operational currently, since 18 months or longer. Too bad timing. :arrgh!:

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None of the six German submarines is operational currently
Why.:hmmm:

Schroeder 06-02-18 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 2555550)
Why.:hmmm:

Missing spare parts. Our politicians made such awesome deals with the industry that we have no spare parts.

Skybird 06-02-18 06:16 AM

^ Also a lack of maintenance capacities and a general underfunding of the armed services. Thats a constant in all branches of the services. I do not have the numbers in my head right now, but major shares of our tank fleet, IFVs, helicopters, interceptors and transports are not operational, too. Too few volunteers are coming, too. Last time I heard about the German contingent for that coming Easteuropean NATO force - where the Germans should lead, if I am not mistaken - had only three of the needed IFVs from the assigned brigade working. THREE!!!



Now with even more people avoiding the services, and development aid for third world countries partially now counted as military spendings to beautify the numbers, I do not see things getting better anytime soon. Also, the red socialists of the SPD have been given control of the finance ministry, and they are traditionally extremely Russophile and see no reason to be on guard against Russia. And Merkel does what she does best: nothing but sitting.



Thats what its all about these days: she could not become SED Staatsratsvorsitzende anymore, so she occupies the chancellory as a second prize.



Fact is she has nothing to say anymore. The power is where the control over finances is. But she has never really led to new shores anyway, only managed a stagnating status quo that was caused by others before her, and occasionally u-turning on some issue when her "authority" was in danger and public opinion swung. She is one of the most overestimated duds in politics I have ever seen anywhere. She would be nothing in history if on a national level she would not have flattened and suffocated everybody around her who could challenge her. An elephant in a room of so small dimensions that the grey skin squeezes out of the door and windows.


And the whole personnel regime in Berlin is like that. Totally disconnected from the realities the ordinary people have to live in. Problems grow dramatically. Law and order are it dramatic decline, with the government itself leading the competition of breaking the rules, Degrees of freedoms to react and counter the challenges, got intentionally given up, and additionally vanish by themselves, in the face of an overwhelming tide of problems, many of them them self-made, the rest being consequences of earlier self-made problems.


Say good-bye to world history and the stage of global relevance, Germany. You're done. And you want it.

Gerald 06-02-18 06:55 AM

As I mentioned earlier, so I had a completely different view 30 years ago and thought Germany's defense was good. But, of course, the times have changed, and I have realized that Merkel is a puppet in a country that exists, but has had big changes over the past 10 years, so just keep going and believe that the best thing comes to you.

em2nought 06-02-18 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 2555550)
Why.:hmmm:


Because we shamed them for so long they became modern citizens of the world who aren't really into that sort of thing anymore. :03:

Gerald 06-02-18 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2555595)
Because we shamed them for so long they became modern citizens of the world who aren't really into that sort of thing anymore. :03:

LOL :Kaleun_Wink:


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