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em2nought 08-13-17 03:32 PM

The moral of this story will probably turn out to be "Never call a guy's submarine 'tiny'." :D

Tchocky 08-13-17 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2506360)
The moral of this story will probably turn out to be "Never call a guy's submarine 'tiny'." :D


Hey.

Not funny.

Carotio 08-13-17 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2506376)
Hey.

Not funny.

Agree, this is not a situation to make fun of. I have met PM a couple of times several years ago now and found him as a cool guy. If something has happend, and he is guilty, then it is a sad development and will be a sad outcome and legacy for him, but even more it is very very sad for Kim Wall and her relatives. If she is dead in the sub and thrown overbord somewhere, that is not an acceptable way to leave this earth.

Put that aside, here is yet another article:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/tidligere...e-brik/6777235

A former crime research officer has commented on the situation. He presumes that PM has dumped the body somewhere in the Sound or Køge Bugt south of Copenhagen. Unless PM will cooperate, the police can only speculate his whereabouts during that night, since the sub can go pretty far during those many hours. Normally, you're innocent untill proven guilty. The research officer thus presumes that the police must have something which reveals that PM must have somehting to do with her dissapearance. There was apparently some communication between the woman and her boyfriend that evening, which maybe is a reason for the police to keep him. The police is also searching for any DNA-evidence in the sub, probably because there might be a sexual motive for a crime. The sexual motive is probably also the reason why the court decided to close the doors saturday, because they didn't want to hurt the feelings of the relatives of KW.

Mr Quatro 08-13-17 08:50 PM

Good reporting Carotio you have a certain innocence about you. Yes we all hope it turns out well for Peter Madsen. After that DDG and the freighter accident I fear jumping to conclusions anymore :o

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/64/12/41.../7/920x920.jpg

This is a April 30 2008 file photo of submarine owner Peter Madsen

Rockstar 08-13-17 08:52 PM

Assuming the worst, there could have been a bloody mess inside the boat which may be a reason he opened it up to the sea.

Mr Quatro 08-13-17 08:58 PM

If this story is true then it looks very bad for PM :yep:

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...wall-continues

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Kristian Isbak, who had responded to the navy’s call to help locate the ship, sailed out immediately Friday and saw Madsen standing wearing his trademark military fatigues in the submarine’s tower while it was still afloat.

“He then climbed down inside the submarine and there was then some kind of air flow coming up and the submarine started to sink,” Isbak said. “[He] came up again and stayed in the tower until water came into it”, before swimming to a nearby boat as the submarine sank, he added.

Madsen “told us he had technical problems” to explain why the submarine failed to respond to radio contact, Damgaard said.

Onkel Neal 08-13-17 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2506404)
Assuming the worst, there could have been a bloody mess inside the boat which may be a reason he opened it up to the sea.

Oh wow. Yeah, possibly.

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The police must definitely have something on Peter Madsen, since they quickly hurried to arrest him.

It believes the Swedish criminologist Jerzy Sarnecki, who Aftonbladet has spoken to.

"Obviously, they have something on him," he says to the newspaper.
I thought the same. The police arrested him almost immediately, so they must have some evidence to base that on.

https://bt.bmcdn.dk/media/cache/reso...3-nautilus.jpg

mapuc 08-14-17 12:13 PM

The Danish Police has an appeal:

The police are calling for both people who have been on tour with Peter Madsen in his submarine and who have seen the submarine

The trip we toke, toke about 10 minutes and I can't remember what he did or didn't. I remember we dived for some minutes while crossing the canal in Copenhagen.

Markus

The General 08-14-17 01:05 PM

Just because the guy used crowd-funding, it doesn't mean he wanted to share with the crowd.

People who are extremely gifted in one area, often lack development in other areas.

That said, I hope this girl turns up, alive and well, but unless she jumped on a private jet to outer-Mongolia, without telling anyone, it's not looking good.

I suspect there was an accident and through fear of having his beloved sub taken away, he attempted to cover it up. I hope I'm wrong.

McBeck 08-14-17 03:21 PM

Stories are now surfacing that friends of the reported are saying that she can be fairly aggressive. Pair that with the fact that the judge ordered closed hearings to ensure that her relatives would not be offended by what would be disclosed tells a story that she has played a part in this whole mess.

I may be know Peter, but I am still trying my very best to stay neutral.
That being said, Peter is not a violent guy...

Catfish 08-15-17 01:21 AM

Innocent, until something else is proven. :yep:

em2nought 08-15-17 01:35 AM

It really is a swell looking little boat. :cry:

Onkel Neal 08-15-17 06:25 AM

One of the last images from Ms. Wall's trip
https://d3p157427w54jq.cloudfront.ne...26-637x371.jpg

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/danis...arine-missing/

AVGWarhawk 08-15-17 10:58 AM

Really odd situation this one.

McBeck 08-15-17 11:19 AM

Very. The forensic evidence collection from the sub has been completed, but they are not making any statements...


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