I firmly believe PGE will be ripped a few new holes with all the professional people having lost so much. The sad part is they will prevail in passing it on to all the consumers just like what happened with the Brisbane pipeline explosion caused by their ineptness and failure to use funds they received in previous years earmarked to inspect those very same pipelines. Can't disappoint the investors you know.

http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/pub/cdf/images/incidentfile1226_1955.pdf This report gives greater clarity to the long-term post-fire danger to the region watersheds and environment when heavy winter rains hit. The current disaster, which is even larger, will bear the same consequences over the decade to come.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/6041674-181/a-year-later-valley-fires?gallery=6044366&artslide=12 http://www.pressdemocrat.com/csp/med...YPE=image/jpeg

Acktung, thanks for the continued updates. I'm getting virtually nothing about in the news about the fires here. There is very little in fire trade magazines. I pass along the information when I can. Prayers for all of you.

The tally thus far in today's paper: 651 homes damaged in Napa county with 569 of that tally: destroyed; 4882 homes are destroyed in neighboring Sonoma County; with 601 commercial structures also destroyed...So far the death toll stands at 43 but all of the 'missing' are not accounted for as yet. All road blocks are supposedly lifted so I will be viewing the damage on Oakville Grade/Trinity Rd. road sometime this week.

It's not out yet
 

The Redwood Valley fire in Mendocino County (8dead 36,523 acres0 is 100% percent contained. The Tubbs fire in Sonoma is 95% contained; the Nuns and Pocket fires in both Napa and Sonoma are 94% contained.as of this AM full containment is expected today. In today's SF chronicle: the Hanley Fire of 1964 burned 52,000 acres and destroyed 100 homes This present fire is a more savage copy along nearly the same path....half a century later:

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Originally Posted by Chronicle Local officials had long been aware that another tragic wildfire was a possibility. As recently as last spring a Sonoma Counrt report on potential hazards facing the region cautioned that a fire comparable to the Hanley Fire could cause 'catastphic damage to the City of Santa Rosa. hazard. If multiple blazes broke out around the state during fire season firefighting resources in Sonoma County could be stretched beyond theircapacity the Hazard Mitigation PPlan stated...In Santa Rosa's Fountaingrove neighborhood, built in an area that the Hanley Fire had roared through in 1964, homeowners had spent heavily on protection measures to prepare for a wildfire. Still the neighborhood was lost to the flames. No one expected that a fire could jump into the heart of Santa Rosa burning a subdivision such as Coffey Park.http://static3.businessinsider.com/i...0/rts1fstw.jpg This fire will rewrite the books....it isn't just about the 'wildland urban interface' where 1/3 of Sonoma County residents live.

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/san-francisco-chronicle/20171027/281539406209892

What Happens to Fire Retardant Soaked Cropsk
 

Hang in there California ... the fire stops here :yep:

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Politics rears its ugly head as the coffers drain
 

California didn't vote for the Gropinator-in-Chief: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/11/17/white-house-44-billion-disaster-aid-bill-offers-no-relief-for-wildfire-victims/ In all fairness though, the hurricane burden, especially in Puerto Rico, Texas, and Florida is at $100 billion dollars. The amount requested by CA's Gov Brown ( governor moonbeam in his own right?!) is $7.5 billion and separate FEMA aid has been authorized to California disaster victims. As a greatfull FEMA recipient in one past earthquake disaster myself: destroyed chimney and foundation to house etc, I imagine the Donald has to make some tough allotment decisions and is discovering there are no good deals!:timeout:! https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2017/10/10/president-donald-j-trump-approves-major-disaster-declaration-california The world's 10th largest economy, California, and its 'wine country' will weather the firestorm...sodaspeke!:yep: :yeah:

High winds today too ... I feel so sorry for the people involved especially the ones without insurance. I hope this one is over soon.

Morning news said another fire broke out near hwy 405 at 5 am this morning ... starting to wonder if someone is starting these fires knowing the high winds will spread them. :o

If there ever was a year to have another El Nino, this would be it.

A bit of clarification: as of the last time I heard, about an hour ago, there is a total of six separate fires burning in the general area of Ventura County and Los Angeles, both of which areas are adjacent. Bel Air is not a town, but a neighborhood in LA and the site of some of the most expensive homes and estates in the US. The Bel Air fire is the most recent blaze and is threatening not only the homes, it is threatening the Getty Museum, home to a collection of some of the most priceless art works anywhere; also in jeopardy is the Skirball Cultural Center. As of last check, only one of the fires has any containment, but it was only 10% contained. The biggest problem has been the presence of the Santa Ana Winds, a recurring meteorological phenomenon featuring very high winds and very low humidity. The winds have died down a bit at present, but there are predictions they may pick up again later in the day. The Bel Air fire is causing some really big problems; it is right next to the 405 Freeway, the main traffic route between the Los Angeles Basin and the San Fernando Valley; LA is divided into two by the Santa Monica Mountains and other smaller ranges, with the Basin to the south and the Valley to the north. The 405 has been shut down and this is really bad since the 405 is one of the most heavily traveled roadways in the US and is a rough go, trafficwise, even in the best conditions...


Los Angeles threatened as wildfires spread, forcing thousands to evacuate --

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/we...uation-n826946

Fire crews fight to protect Ojai; hundreds of homes are feared lost in Ventura County --

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...206-story.html

This map shows where 5 of Southern California’s biggest wildfires are burning --

http://www.dailynews.com/2017/12/05/...s-are-burning/








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Hwy 405 this morning: http://www.dailynews.com/2017/12/06/...skirball-fire/

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The Skirball Fire has gotten a bit worse since those morning news reports:

As many as six homes destroyed in Skirball Fire burning near 405 freeway in Bel Air --

https://la.curbed.com/2017/12/6/1674...ty-bel-air-map

If the Santa Ana winds do pick up again later in the day, it could be very bad for those to the east of the current blaze since the winds come from a east and northeast direction. Back in the 80s, there was a fire that started in the Laurel Canyon area, on the north edge of Hollywood, and it burned all the way to the ocean, a distance of about 12+ miles, straight. I witnessed how the fire first started and the speed with which it spread, from some kids playing with firecrackers to the massive blaze it became, was startling...







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