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Von Due 11-17-17 10:37 AM

Argentine navy lost contact with sub [UPDATE: SUB FOUND]
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42030560

An Argentine submarine is currently not responding to comm attempts. Reasons could be many and as of now the sub is not considered missing. Instead the theory is they have radio problems, according to the Arg. navy. Let's hope that is the case and that the boat with its 44 man crew returns safe and sound.

Onkel Neal 11-17-17 01:09 PM

Hope they come through okay.

daft 11-17-17 03:17 PM

I sincerely hope they are all fine and just enjoy some time away from all the bull****. Hopefully they'll get to where they're going.

Also, I love how the Navy spokesman explains to the journalist how **** works:

Quote:

"It's not that it's lost," he said. "For it to be lost we'd have to look for it and not find it."

August 11-17-17 06:07 PM

This happened on Wednesday morning. Time is beginning to weigh against the bad radio theory. I also heard that they reported a battery fire just before breaking contact. I hope they are ok but it doesn't look good.

GoldenRivet 11-17-17 07:30 PM

best case scenario is they put the fire out and all comms are down as a result of the fire

middle case scenario is they emergency surfaced the sub and abandoned ship and are awaiting pickup in the sea

i think we all know what the worst case scenario is :nope:

Von Due 11-17-17 09:01 PM

Yeah all scenarios are plausible but I don't want to speculate (read fantasise) over what has happened. I think we can all agree official statements aren't always precise (Kursk, anyone?) but right now it is the only piece of info out and there is hope that it will end well.

EDIT: The Chilean Airforce, the British RN and the USN are now involved in the search for the missing submarine.

Catfish 11-18-17 06:45 AM

Some pictures and background
 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

Skybird 11-18-17 07:04 AM

German-build, say the articles. On the photos, it looks like a 209, or not?

Von Due 11-18-17 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2525910)
German-build, say the articles. On the photos, it looks like a 209, or not?

It's a TR-1700 class.

Jimbuna 11-18-17 08:05 AM

Argentina missing navy submarine
 
Quote:

The Argentine navy is stepping up its search in the South Atlantic for a 44-crew submarine that has been out of radio contact for three days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-42030560

Hopefully she will be found soon and all aboard will be safe.

STEED 11-18-17 08:06 AM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...23#post2525923

Skybird 11-18-17 08:06 AM

TR-1007? Never heard of that, but that is no wonder :) ... Is that kind of an export version of one of the 209 variants, like the 209 up to 209-1004, or is it a completlye new design?

Jimbuna 11-18-17 08:17 AM

Threads merged.

Von Due 11-18-17 09:15 AM

Things are now starting to look less than optimal with reports coming in now that the sub has been detected at 70 m depth, and while it is unconfirmed, words like "loss" is not what one would hope for.

http://maritimebulletin.net/2017/11/...adicting-news/

Jimbuna 11-18-17 10:54 AM

70 m depth is well within range of recue if assetts can be deployed quick enough.

Von Due 11-18-17 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2526006)
70 m depth is well within range of recue if assetts can be deployed quick enough.

True, depending on damage.

kraznyi_oktjabr 11-18-17 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2525938)
TR-1007? Never heard of that, but that is no wonder :) ... Is that kind of an export version of one of the 209 variants, like the 209 up to 209-1004, or is it a completlye new design?

I'm not completely sure but I think TR-1700 is derivative of Type 209 design with somewhat larger dimensions and displacement.

Vessel involved in this incident recently went through major overhaul which included rebuilding of diesel engines, replacement of batteries, replacement of periscopes etc.

gambla 11-19-17 04:04 AM

There's hope that a phone company received attempted calls to marine bases via sat phone, but still unconfirmed. They're trying to determine the exact location of the calls.

source (german):
http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Militaer...e20140245.html

Bubblehead Nuke 11-19-17 12:07 PM

3 days without contact on a modern warship?

Even a country like Argentina has access to modern communications gear and ANY warship is going to have multiple ways to 'call home' let alone contact SOMEONE who can relay a message.

How do they KNOW that a 4 second message was from them? It could have been atmospheric noise.

They are grasping at straws in an attempt to save face.

This is not a rescue, it is a recovery operation now.

fireftr18 11-19-17 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke (Post 2526290)
3 days without contact on a modern warship?

Even a country like Argentina has access to modern communications gear and ANY warship is going to have multiple ways to 'call home' let alone contact SOMEONE who can relay a message.

How do they KNOW that a 4 second message was from them? It could have been atmospheric noise.

They are grasping at straws in an attempt to save face.

This is not a rescue, it is a recovery operation now.

I hate to think it, but you may be right. Let's continue to hope and pray that it is a major communications issue and they are all found safe.
:Kaleun_Cheers:


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