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Good god! Necromancy! Well, as long as everyone else is doing it.
Guadalcanal's "Ironbottom Sound" is chock-full of sunken ships, but everybody probably knows that. Musashi should be fairly easy to find, considering she sunk in the middle of the Phillippines, hard to believe shes been lost. How about the hundreds of U-boats in the middle of the Atlantic? Bet no one will find them ever! |
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the "Victoria", hrrrm, seems she sank because being rammed accidentally during a fleet "show" manoeuvre .. " ... Victoria wrote a page in naval infamy when she was accidentally rammed by the Admiral-class battleship HMS Camperdown (left) and sunk in full view of crowds on the Tripoli waterfront, including a glittering array of military brass. ..." " ...The 1200-yard gap between the columns was 400 yards less than double the ships' minimum turning radius. Unfortunately the Admiral failed to widen the space between columns (as subordinates timidly suggested several times) to build in a margin of safety before ordering the crash turn. Some sort of mental block seems to have blinded him to the peril, and his officers were wary of arousing his famous temper. The two leading ships, Victoria and Camperdown, drew closer and closer until the Camperdown's ram sliced through the Victoria's bow. Mercifully Camperdown's captain had reversed engines at the last minute, as the collision course became obvious to him. ..." A case of leading officer's expertise again, seems to be the US Navy is right with promoting officers that "have luck" rather than other, well, attributes :shifty: Well, no warship but seemingly an auxiliary cruiser ? :hmm: : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490# Greetings, Catfish |
I was watching a piece on the history channel just yesterday on the USS Indianapolis being found; but I wasn't reall paying attention (on for background noise).
The USS Oklahoma was raised and then sold for scrap due to the excessive damage http://www.pacificwrecks.com/ships/usn/BB-37.html |
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However, even though her exact location is still unknown, according to this article in the Manila Bulletin some Japanese executives are planning to raise her: http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2008/10/...021138571.html Quote:
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Ah, but he had the Power of Swede!
Well, Karl Kroyer did. But he was a real person! |
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Otherwise you just replace the fuel with seawater as they are emptied but the case mentioned means "disturbing" a grave site.:|\\ Honor to the men of the Arizona /OB :arrgh!: |
Update on IBS Wrecks
Just a quick note going out to AG124 Grey Wolf.
I've also been doing some extensive research on the events of 9 August 1942, on the occasion of the 1st Battle of Savo Isle. I've been able to obtain some info (however limited) from various wreck divers out of Tulagi, (Florida) on wreck locations for at least a few of those ships you had listed. Some limited info (and a pretty good map) has surfaced to provide for diver accouints for the Quincy, Astoria, Vincennes, DeHaven, Northampton, HMAS Canberra, and even USS LST 342 in Tokyo Bay. Wish I had some way to attach the map image here. Pretty cool actually. If you guys get a chance, read up on the Quincy and the Laffey, and their sad fates. All fascinating stuff! You might also want to catch Richard Seaman's classic "342" Tokyo Bay photos at: http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/SolomonIslands/NgellaIslands/Lst342/index.html Just thought I'd share with you guys and pass along. SavoIsle |
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From the Arizona Preservation Project website (info from 2004):
4. Is there still oil on Arizona ?As of a year or so ago (last I've heard), the NPS believed that a catastrophic collapse of Arizona's hull, leading to a major oil spill, is still some years off. In the meantime, they monitor the site closely to (hopefully) anticipate any major changes in the wreck. For a variety of reasons, all concerned want to keep as "hands-off" on this wreck as they can. |
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Of the other WWII wrecks previously listed in this thread, only HMS Hermes has been found, and that was back in 2006. She lies upside down in very shallow water (only about 150 feet) and is (obviously) heavily damaged. To my knowledge, none of the Italian warships sunk during the war have been located, either. All the wrecks from the Java Sea battles have also been located as of this writing. As for the IJN, countless merchant ships have been found over the years, but I'm only going to list the major warships here. MINELAYERS Hatsutaka, Itsukushima SUBMARINES RO-60, RO-65, I-1, I-7, I-14, I-30, I-33, I-34, I-52, I-58, I-169, I-201, I-401 Of these, I-30, I-33, and I-34 were all salvaged and scrapped. Their wrecks no longer exist. I-14, I-201, and I-401 were sunk as target ships postwar. I-58 (yes, the sub that sank Indianapolis)'s discovery is only a shaky rumor. Details of the wreck are unavailable. DESTROYER-ESCORTS Kuwa DESTROYERS Oite, Fumizuki, Nagatsuki, Kikuzuki, Yuzuki, Ayanami, Amagiri, Akatsuki, Shigure, Arare, Kuroshio, Shimakaze, Shimotsuki Of these Ballard discovered a DD wreck in Ironbottom Sound off Guadalcanal back in 1992. The wreck had the Japanese katakana symbol for 'a' clearly visible on its stern. As no positive ID could be made at the time, it is unknown whether the wreck is that of Ayanami or Akatsuki. The discovery of Shimakaze is - like that of I-58 - rumor only. LIGHT CRUISERS Kuma, Kinu, Isuzu, Sakawa Isuzu's discovery is yet another unfounded rumor. HEAVY CRUISERS Haguro, Ashigara Haguro has been extensively dived. Ashigara lies in very shallow water (around 200 feet or so) and has been heavily salvaged. SEAPLANE & AIRCRAFT CARRIERS Akitsushima, Kaga Only a small piece of Kaga (one of her AA gun sponsons) was located. BATTLESHIPS Kirishima, Yamashiro, Nagato, Mutsu, Yamato Yamashiro was supposedly located back in 2006, lying on her starboard side in 600 feet of water in reportedly very good condition. As no pics have come from this, I consider this rumor to be unfounded. As for the remaining BBs, there was to have been an expedition to look for Kongo's wreck back in March 2010, but it never got off the ground due to lack of funding. Musashi's wreck - despite the nutcase claims she was to be salvaged and rebuilt as a museum ship - remains unlocated. If anyone wants more info about the wrecks mentioned here, let me know. -Matt |
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