Deck gun strength
 

Ok guys, this is interesting. I got my copy of The Naval Institue / Theodore Roscoe's US Submarine Operations in WW2. In it they talk about, and have a couple of pictures of . . .

Sub chasers sinking where the boat surfaced and took it out with a DECK GUN! The book talks about skippers using the deck gun later in the war to sink sub chasers AND mine sweepers to save their torpedoes for the few targets left.

Will do more research into this, but methinks we may need to upgrade the shell strength a bit in RFB.

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What he said.:up:

Just a bit!!!

RFB for ROW and ROW Sub Reflections
 

Ok...
I'm sure this has been addressed in some thread here before, but, I can't seem to figure out how to do a search for mulitple words on this site.
My question is the ROW and RFB for ROW install order. Its been suggested elseware that ROW is installed first, then RFB. However, RFB overwrites the ROW Sub Reflections and Pitch Roll mod. And I've been doing it that way, but, notice there's a lot of pitch and roll out there ! Is this the correct install order ?
By the way, I tried searching for "RFB sub reflections", but got no results (and that's normally the case when I search here on SubSim). How do you search for multiple words on this site ? Does it accept the normal boolean search terms (ie RFB +sub +reflections).

Thanks
beartooth91

Does it say anywhere how many shells it took to sink a given sub-chaser? Five? Twenty? Thirty? Does it say which class of sub-chaser? Displacement?

"I read in a book that they sank one with the deck gun. It's more realistic to have them blow sky-high with every single hit!"

Beery did a huge amount of research when designing that mod, and he's gotten nothing but flak ever since. Go ahead and change whatever you like; but make sure you have ALL your facts straight, and aren't just another gamer looking for an edge.

Lets start here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126875


Now, if you install ROW and then RFB, the only thing that will change is the size of the sun. Halo, glare, reflections will be there from ROW. Now, when JSGME is telling you X file and been changed already by Y file does not necessarly mean it is changing the same exact file. There will several changes within the file but it will not be the same changes that ROW has done as complared to RFB is changing. So, if ROW is installed first and then RFB it will say that ROW has altered these files already. That is ok because ROW did alter them as to how the game is rendered. RFB will change that existing file to how the file will render play.

Anyway, load ROW, RFB and RSRD (if you want) in that order. You will have no issues.

Sometimes expressing a thought on this forum will cause some people to jump to conclusions and assume the worst. Which is why people don't do so very often.

Sigh, there was flak on the reload times when RC2 was released, but the reason for that was because of an abherent behavior on th part of SH4. For some reason, on my system, the reload time is 4 times the reload value in the gun file. As far as I can tell from feedback, no one else see's this with the exact same mods installed. So although I released the mod with observed reload times of 20, 24, and 28 on the 3 guns, everyone else saw 5,6,and 7. If the time multilpier had not happened during testing, the 5 inch gun in RC21 would have taken LONGER to reload than Beery's time and you'll see that on the next release. Which of course we'll get flak for doing.;)

So just don't assume we're trying to make an uber deck gun.

You're right; I forgot I was addressing the guy actually doing the work. It's just after so many years of seeing "it has to be fixed!"...well, you know.:oops:

What he said.:up::rotfl::up:

Not sure if anyone's mentioned this before, but what happened to the emergency surface order? Fleet boats did have emergency surface capability (in fact, some where I saw a pic of one of them pulling a damn-near 60 degree surface!).

Not having e-surface also robs me of a rather fun tactic I used to use on sampans and lightly armed merchants: the Battle Surface (in which I order battle stations then e-surface so that the sub bursts out of the water with gun crews ready for a quick running gun attack). This maneuver was also successfully used by Wahoo during one of her attacks.

I hit the E key and the ballast is blown. If you are already at battle stations, you should be good to go on the suprise surfacing tactic.

We had to remove some of the buttons so they would not be covered when the game was run at 1024X768.

Emergency surface is a infrequently used command, so it was one of the ones removed from the button panel.

Some of the buttons were removed because of them being covered running at lower resolutions.

Emergency surface is a infrequently used command, so it was one of the ones removed from the button panel.

One of the RFB crew(historical information gathering) have found a few instances of using the cannon to sink vessels larger than the sanpan. He has also found how many rounds fired, how many hit home that did the sinking. Looking to a get a decent average on type of round used, how many hits to do the job. Hopefully this new found info will generate a common ground concerning the cannon.