Ok, I look forward to hearing the results(fingers crossed and hoping all goes well). Thank you for testing by the way.

When I did 15 run throughs of the area (re-loading a save numerous times) and running the area for 3 days at high TC, I never had anyproblems :)

Awesome!:yeah: I had not realized that you tested it that extensively. Ok, I think that sums it up. Going from frequent CTDs to none out of 15 is enough evidence for me. I will begin working on a fix for the whole map. It will take a little while though(probably a day or two) for me to do it. What the .tga needs is very tedious work(I am talking pixel by pixel out of 1080X540 pixels).

What I think is the problem, is even after I redid W_clear's climatezones.tga several months ago to fix the wide spread CTDs, I did not think anything about two climate zones touching each other that were not sequential. In other words, right now, it is possible to go from one climate zone, to another which is actually 2 steps away(for example from arctic to tropical in one jump). The reason I left it like that, is because it did not cause me to CTD(which it still doesn't, and never has nor does it cause W_clear to CTD). But, it would make sense that some folks' computers(hardware setups) may have a problem with this happening.

well that's good I'll take his testing over mine anytime.still getting those black areas on the horizon though,but they go away after awhile.but no crash.good luck fixing it and thank you.

You are welcome. I wish I could help you with the dark horizon problem, but you would have to talk directly to W_clear about that one. I would think that it is a shader problem. But, have you tried my mod for fixing sky banding? It replaces the base texture that gets rendered over the sky geometry. That may just fix your horizon problem.

The 'Black Masses' sometimes seen is a known issue from SH3.
(Maybe SH4 also?)

SH5 may be a new version of the SH series.
But there's alot of info on the past versions that still apply.
I highly suggest you look at the past for many issues.

Re-inventing the wheel takes to long.

The CTD's I was experiencing are with Env Mod 3.1 only installed thru JSGME. The more exact locations for the CTD I couldn't tell earlier is just out of Bremen traveling a NW course.

s.v. yes i use your sky banding mod I just took it out for that one time test.It does clear up the sky very well.

at the eastcoast near new york i have ctd's too.
i hope this mod works sometime. :88)

I have a CTD too in the manche channel (between france and uk) sorry for my bad english. But, it's not always crashing so I can still play.

But I have another problem, is the sea that reset itself, quite often... for example I have bad weather, heavy clouds, rain, rough sea... and suddenly everything becomes clear, no clouds, calm sea, and in couple of minuts/seconds the weather come back. It's quite surprising and unrealistic for the crew :D

This sounds like a bad ClimateZones.tga

is it possible to install Ail`s Smoke 1.7 on top of Env 3.1 as I believe Ail`s smoke effect was better...

Will give this a try.

FYI Steel. I'm running your possible CTD fix now. I was crashing in Skagerrak and sometimes close to Heligoland. After applying your fix everything seems kosher now. Will keep you informed. :salute:

Why is my sky completely dark and it is 12 o'clock January on the American seaboard just east of Norfolk.. it is nice and sunny out at 20:40 though..