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Jimbuna

07-21-15 12:20 PM

Interesting times approach :hmm2:

Onkel Neal

08-10-15 07:32 AM

Two interesting, contrasting articles

China hits back at U.S. criticism over South China Sea 'restrictions'

China committed to uphold peace, stability in S. China Sea

Aktungbby

08-10-15 11:23 AM

I'm beginning to wonder if all of this isn't to develop a 'bargaining-chip' for the formal reacquisition of Taiwan/Formosa which is the big objective over all. Present Formosa is a 'big cork' in their bottle. The other big problem is that all conflict takes place in time; China is in no hurry which is at odds with Western culture. We, in the West, like to settle things more quickly than 50 years+ down the line. The Sino power establishment understands it has no equivalent navy capable of head to head conflict at sea, yet, and is biding its time to develop its military infrastructure to maintain what it is continuing since the illegal acquisition of Tibet...over 50 years ago:hmmm:

Aktungbby

08-25-15 01:34 PM

Today the Cows Lick tomorrow the Mediterranean...

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/15/china-russia-navy-joint-sea-2015-asia-pivot-blowback/ On May 11, nine ships from the Russian Navy and China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) kicked off 10 days of combined exercises in the Mediterranean Sea, for their first joint naval war games in European waters. What does this nautical confab, dubbed “Joint Sea 2015,” entail? “Maritime defense, maritime replenishment, escort actions, joint operations to safeguard navigation security as well as real weapon firing drill,” according to Sr. Col. Geng Yansheng, a spokesman for China’s Defense Ministry. The aim of the exercises is to “further deepen friendly and practical interaction between the two countries,” maintained the Russian Defense Ministry. Moscow added that the drills “are not aimed against any third country.”:timeout:

Onkel Neal

10-14-15 03:05 PM

Here we go....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34529863

Quote:

China has been worrying its neighbours - and the US - by enlarging the series of tiny islands, reports the BBC's China analyst Michael Bristow.

Washington believes Beijing is constructing military facilities, designed to reinforce its disputed claim to most of the region - a major shipping zone.

The row began when US officials said they were considering sending warships inside the 12-nautical-mile zones that China claims as territory around the Spratlys.

That sparked strong words from China, with Ms Hua warning: "We will never allow any country to violate China's territorial waters and airspace in the Spratly Islands, in the name of protecting freedom of navigation and overflight."

On Tuesday, US Defence Secretary Ash Carter expressed "strong concerns" over island-building, and defended Washington's plans.
"Make no mistake, the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows, as we do around the world, and the South China Sea will not be an exception," he said at a news conference with the Australian foreign and defence ministers.

"We will do that in the time and places of our choosing," he added, according to Reuters news agency.

Aktungbby

10-14-15 03:12 PM

FIRST TIBET; THEN THE WORLD!:x

ikalugin

10-14-15 03:55 PM

On serious note, the balance of power is changing in the region. Though it is not as obvious in that islands scenario, it is much more obvious in the Taiwan one, primarily due to the BM build up by PRC.

mapuc

10-14-15 06:06 PM

Can easily imagine a situation where America has sent a warship inside China's 12 nautical miles limit(forgot what the real word is), to say to China- We do not recognize your "claim" and this minor psychological naval battle could very well go out of control.

Markus

ikalugin

10-15-15 05:53 AM

Does anyone know anything about the Chinese BMEWS? I can't seem to find any data on the current status of the system, except the old and now non operational 7010 radar.

ikalugin

10-15-15 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2351024)

That happened a number of times in the Soviet days. Prefered course of action was ramming the offenders to push them out of the territorial waters.

mapuc

10-26-15 05:41 PM

Latest from CNN about this

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/26/po...yer/index.html

Quote:

The ship could make the pass as soon as Monday night, barring any unforeseen circumstances, a U.S. military source told CNN. There will be air cover as well as reconnaissance in the air, flying in international airspace, the source said.
The aircraft will watch the ship and be there, if needed, to record and deal with any problems. The Chinese have not been informed, the source said, adding that no trouble is expected

Markus

Onkel Neal

10-26-15 05:46 PM

Yup, game on, China :doh:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0SK2AC20151026

mapuc

10-26-15 05:55 PM

I think the Chinese will make some diplomatically protest and nothing more. I don't think they are in any way interested in escalating this-For once I hope I'm right and not wrong.

Military they will send some vessel to "see" what the Americans do and they will send some air assets

Markus

ikalugin

10-27-15 01:55 AM

Raising power, established power. Someone said peloponesian wars?

Onkel Neal

10-27-15 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2353767)

Well, reports say the Chinese took no retaliatory action. So what now? Repeat in six months? I think the US/Japan/S. Korea should begin excavating their own man-made islands in the South China Sea :arrgh!:

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