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Meldric 05-08-12 06:19 AM

Fish
 
Hi everyone!

By now we probably all saw the video of SilentHunterOnline... I do not like the idea of such a game, but what I liked a lot in the video was:

The fish swarm in front of the boat in the video.

Would it be possible to add some sea animals, fish swarms and stuff to SH5? Of course there are the dolphins, but I really love this swarm behaviour image infront of the boat... have to say, I love it...

theluckyone17 05-08-12 06:55 AM

I got the impression that the video was not an example of game play; rather, it was a cinematic advertisement for the game.

Like when the movie industry puts out a shiny trailer for a new movie that catches your eye, then you watch the movie and realize that all of the scenes that you liked in the trailer were pulled from the actual movie.

:damn:

Meldric 05-08-12 07:00 AM

I am absolutly aware of that. Or that you actually already saw the best scenes of the movie while watching the trailer...
Still, I like the fish.
:)
Possible?

Sailor Steve 05-08-12 07:30 AM

We now have a complete forum just for SHO. Please do not start SHO threads in other forums.

Meldric 05-08-12 08:02 AM

Well, this is not a Silent Hunter Online Topic at all... Have you red the post?
;)

quink99 05-08-12 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meldric (Post 1881100)
Well, this is not a Silent Hunter Online Topic at all... Have you red the post?
;)

Hmmmm.......does it concern a MOD or MODS for SH5?

Meldric 05-08-12 05:34 PM

Indeed, it does.
I was asking, if it was possible to add lifeforms (fish) to SH5 (obviously in form of a mod) as they can be seen in the SHO video.

Meldric 05-11-12 04:37 AM

Well, it looks like this is not possible or as if all modders are busy with more important stuff. Fair enough...

tonschk 05-11-12 10:03 AM

I was asking the exact same question years ago in SH4 or SH3, but apparently is not necessary so much difficult to do because as we can see in the SHO video the developers were able to add those fish into the water

Luxius 05-17-12 02:30 PM

It is OBVIOUSLY a request for wild life mods, I can easily tell from reading just the OP. I'd love it, especially whales, both in the sea and picked up by the hydrophone. Who wouldn't?

Has no modder considered this? :D

volodya61 05-17-12 02:54 PM

Welcome Luxius!

If you want to hear the dolphins and whales in the hydrophone just try Open Horizons - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=189818

kapitan_zur_see 05-17-12 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 1882592)
as we can see in the SHO video the developers were able to add those fish into the water

All that you see in the trailer is 100% pre-rendered CGI, no ingame actual footage of any sort, as can be obviously seen for who's a bit used with CGI and 3d modding. Camera movement and a bunch of different things reveals it.

At best, it is some of SH5 rendering engine that is used (and it looks like it), but given the cinematic motion of camera, it's modified and thus, not taken from the game per se. So there's not the same constraints and limitations that modders have to deal with. And there's some compositing in the video too.

For sure though, it's certainly not what the game is going to look like, I can tell you that! A little educating comparison :D:

Trailer CGI vs. provided in-game screenshot
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=5668http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=5669


OUCH! that hurts a hell lot! :dead: the engine to come has SH3 capabilities it seems, at the very best. Talk about the future...


Anyway, I myself thought and experimented a bit with trying to make swarms of fishes for SH5 not so long ago. Even so as to experiment with anipmated sprite based particule generators to try and mimick it, without satisfactory renditions. I know there are ways to circumvent limitations in order to implement such a thing. However, I couldn't do much as I quickly found out that I obviously had to wait for TDW's tool for importing stuffs and modifying granny files to be finished, as we are now too much limited in modding with current tools. In other words, could be possible but not at present, thus tailored to the release of TDW's stuff

Meldric 05-18-12 03:02 AM

Now it becomes a SHO-Thread... :)

I know, in the video it is manipulated. I was wondering, if it was possible in SH5.

Question: OH has whales and dolphins? I use the light version due to performance issues... would the wildlife be extractable in a separate mod?

Rongel 05-18-12 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meldric (Post 1885316)

Question: OH has whales and dolphins? I use the light version due to performance issues... would the wildlife be extractable in a separate mod?

Trying to nudge this back to SH 5.... :D

OH II has dolphins, but not whales. For some reason the whales never got imported from the previous games. But it's possible, maybe some day.

You should ask this in the OH II thread from Trevally (but he might have his hands full already with the new update...)

Sailor Steve 05-18-12 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meldric (Post 1881100)
Well, this is not a Silent Hunter Online Topic at all... Have you red the post?
;)

Yes, and I apologize. Sometimes I don't get the time to read past the headlines.

gap 05-18-12 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rongel (Post 1885320)
Trying to nudge this back to SH 5.... :D

OH II has dolphins, but not whales. For some reason the whales never got imported from the previous games.

Really?
I was sure they were featured in OHII, like dolphins... :-?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rongel (Post 1885320)
But it's possible, maybe some day.

You should ask this in the OH II thread from Trevally (but he might have his hands full already with the new update...)

I have a little mod on my HD adding whales to SH5.

I think it was conceived as a proof of concept, and as far as I know, it was never released on itself, though I remember it was doing its jobe, except maybe for the whale chants that were audible from external cam but not from hydrophone, or viceversa.
I cannot remeber who is the author of the original mod for SHIII or IV, neither who imported it for SH5, but for sure I got it from stoianm, long tima ago, so we can ask him for permission issues.
If Trevally wil be wanting to add it to OHII I will be glad to send it to him via PM. :03:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4219/whalest.png

Meldric 05-18-12 09:16 AM

Looks cool!

I assume the whales and dolphins will only show up, if they are added to the campaign in some way? That means, I'll still never see them (even if I would install a mod), because I am using the light version of OHII?

(Of course, I can ask in the other thread as well)

gap 05-18-12 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meldric (Post 1885401)
Looks cool!

I assume the whales and dolphins will only show up, if they are added to the campaign in some way? That means, I'll still never see them (even if I would install a mod), because I am using the light version of OHII?

(Of course, I can ask in the other thread as well)

I think that with some easy tweaks on OHII's roster, they would show up as generig shipping without need to add them to campaign layers. I could be wrong though. Better you ask Trevally ;)

Trevally. 05-18-12 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meldric (Post 1885401)
Looks cool!

I assume the whales and dolphins will only show up, if they are added to the campaign in some way? That means, I'll still never see them (even if I would install a mod), because I am using the light version of OHII?

(Of course, I can ask in the other thread as well)

You should switch to OHII base + the traffic and speed fix:yep:
If you are having fps issues - try going 50km away from kiel and see if it improves (and/or reduce graphics settings)
Kiel is the fps killer for OHII. You are only there for a short time, so if you can get through that - the other ports are not so bad.

If you then find fps are ok - you can then add the environment layer and this will add the dolphins:up:

@Gap
If we can find out who owns the whales and get permission - i can add then after finishing the work on MG:D

Luxius 05-18-12 01:57 PM

This is awesome news! I can't wait to get whales in. Will it be possible to torpedo them? O.o

Whale blubber everywhere? xD

No, seriously, just the sprites and the SFX would be nice, and I'll go fetch OHII straight away. Thanks guys, quick response.


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