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gap 09-15-18 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2568856)
There's a lot of 3d works in superstructures, and a different bow design.
Funnels are new. A lot of nodes had been replaced.

I just can't wait to see this beauty in game but you did not answer my question, or rather I did not make it clear enough: while working on the ship did you change anything related with the post that I pointed you to in my previous post which might have caused the glitch?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=170

If my and Hebe Vollmaus suggestions don't do the trick, I am afraid that the easiest way to solve (or at least track down) the problem, will be re-cloning the Queen Mary and re-importing the modified parts in the cloned dat file one by one, while making sure to test often in game and to take notes of all the changes from one testing version to the nex one. :yep:

Hebe Vollmaus 09-16-18 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2568856)
8<--
Tested now, in sea\nppe_ hull parameter appear to be 4 by default.
I've changed this parameter in library's hull, but nothing appear to be changed. Can you please send me your reworked version via PM please?

PM in progress.
But hey, i have not made a rework. You have made the work and i touched the files only.

[EDIT]
Yes, it is not "the" fault. After some more tests the same result as in post#1.
Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
This is the nature of SH3.

Greetings.

SquareSteelBar 09-16-18 06:40 AM

Maybe any ID conflict?

VonDos 09-16-18 03:30 PM

Thanks again everyone!
For test, i've imported hull in a total different unit.
Now, bug appear again.
I think there's, without doubt, something strange in hull's 3d model.
:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

Best regards,
Vd

gap 09-18-18 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2568965)
Thanks again everyone!
For test, i've imported hull in a total different unit.
Now, bug appear again.
I think there's, without doubt, something strange in hull's 3d model.
:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

Best regards,
Vd

That's a good news actually: you have signiificantly narrowed down the problem!
If you send me 3D model and textures, maybe I can help you finding what's wrong with that hull :salute:

Anvar1061 09-18-18 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2569139)
maybe I can help you finding what's wrong with that hull :salute:

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VonDos 09-18-18 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2569139)
That's a good news actually: you have signiificantly narrowed down the problem!
If you send me 3D model and textures, maybe I can help you finding what's wrong with that hull :salute:

You've a PM, thanks!

gap 09-18-18 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2569207)
You've a PM, thanks!

Got it, thanks. I will have a close look into it ASAP :salute:

P.S: when in private chat, we can use Italian... maybe you forgot that we are coming from the same country :03::D

VonDos 09-18-18 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2569225)
Got it, thanks. I will have a close look into it ASAP :salute:

P.S: when in private chat, we can use Italian... maybe you forgot that we are coming from the same country :03::D

:P Sorry for this, force of habit :salute:

gap 09-18-18 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2569230)
:P Sorry for this, force of habit :salute:

No problem mate, whatever language works better for you, for me is okay :up:

So I have opened your hull in Wings3d and I have found normals pointing in the wrong direction, some splitted edges thas should be welded, etc. Those "mistakes" probably come from your 3d editor/exporter (which one do you use btw?). I cannot say that the messed damage decals come from there, but I will fix them anyway and I will investigate further for other possible sources of problems.

On a side note, I have found some detailed plans of the Queen Mary, and I must say that your hull model doesn't compare well with them. If you aim at a very accurate model, I think there is still a fair amount of work still needed. Here are the drawings that I was taling about: :03:



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