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Originally Posted by Sea Demon U-48 (Post 2363608)

Who could forget about that 1st rate beauty? Here's another good one, the Swedish warship Vasa.
http://ulkotours.com/blog/wp-content...useum-vasa.jpg

This is quite something. What is the story on how she ended up here?

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2363625)

This is quite something. What is the story on how she ended up here?

I know this! The Vasa. A newly made Swedish first-rate. It mounted heavy guns on the top decks and the gun ports were especially low. She stayed afloat during her maiden cruise for about 20 seconds. She sank in the mud, and, after recovery a while ago, she's now in the museum.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2363625)

This is quite something. What is the story on how she ended up here?

https://vimeo.com/13821497 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...useet_2008.jpg<enlarges https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_Museum https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...above_bow1.jpg

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Stockholm's iconic Vasa warship has scored ninth place in a list of the top museums on the planet!:up: even people who usually start snoozing at the words 'maritime' and 'history' tend to find the Vasa Museum a fascinating place where they are given the chance to step back in time as well as learn about some of the cutting edge techniques being used to preserve the vessel.

I have always wanted to visit the Vasa, but I lack the funds and spare time to go visit her. Her "Beak" or prow is particularly impressive.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0KC8QYu0gr...asa%2BShip.JPG

The nature of $wedi$h $alvage in the Bronze Age of cannon BBY!

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2363628)

Actually Vasa was not a first rate (72 guns) in the sense that HMS Victory (104 guns) was classed 'a first rate', generally based on the gun count. Sweden's later flagship, Kronanhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ra_Kronan.jpeg was a 110 gun vessel and also top heavy: After four years of service, the ship foundered in rough weather at the Battle of Öland on 1 June 1676: while making a sharp turn under too much sail she capsized, and the gunpowder magazine ignited and blew off most of the bow. Kronan sank quickly, taking about 800 men and more than 100 guns with her, In both cases the Swedish ships' guns were salvaged using diving bells of the period...almost https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...iving_bell.jpg immediately before being lost to memory.

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with a diving bell made according to 17th-century specifications. In 1986, further experiments were done on Kronan. The tests proved successful and the conclusion was that the 17th-century operations must have required considerable experience, skill and favorable weather conditions. Though the conditions off Öland were often difficult, with cold water and unpredictable weather, and required a large crew, the expeditions were very profitable. Historian Björn Axel Johansson has calculated that the total cost for the entire crew for all eight diving seasons was less than 2,000 dalers, the value of one of Kronan's 36-pounder guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronan_(ship) The Kronan And other royal vessel (Svardet 86 guns) also lost with 600 men when a Dutch fireship set off her gun powder, which is currently also a salvage project. 30,000 artifacts from Kronan have been salvaged and cataloged. Both are pictured in the battle of Öland https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ichen_1686.jpg<(enlarges)-In 2011 Svardet was also found off Öland and ID'd.

Thanks for the help in posting, I have some nicer pictures on my computer but can only post two because of the size limit.

This is a photo of my smack Ethel Alice CK476 we are passing the Charlotte Ellen CK258 on a Blackwater smack and barge race a couple of years ago

http://www.phillipsdesign.pandahouse...mackspanda.JPG

Racing through Harwich Harbour with Felixstowe behind us during the Pin Mill race this year.

http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/.../3/2283311.jpg

^ No problem!:up: Looks like you're about to 'cover & steal Charlotte Ellen's wind' in the classic upwind weather-gauge maneuver! I like that single larger inner jib too! Fewer moving parts (2 jib lines) when racing, and more efficient wind usage!:salute: Nuthin' good goes outta style:D 1930-Colne Estuaryhttp://www.merseamuseum.org.uk/MMIma...B5_017_038.jpg

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2363628)

WOW! Worlds shortest maiden cruise. Bow is very ornate.

Along with the smacks, another very familiar sight on the east coast of england, the thames barge.

http://files.on-this.website/333_5833_2913437.jpeg

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2363671)

WOW! Worlds shortest maiden cruise. Bow is very ornate.

Yup. At least the Titanic didn't sink straight away :D