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Skybird 04-03-17 07:15 AM

The "Hum"
 
Is anyone here affected by this strange, mysterious phenomenon?

The so-called Hum, in German "Brummtonphänomen", is known since decades, maybe even centuries already, and the only thing that is known for sure is that we know nothing for sure.

It is a low humming sound that is heared by approximatley 2% of the population. There seems to be changing sensibility over a person's life, with a climax in the years between 50 and 70, and twice as many women than men seem to be affected.

The Hum is typically heard by night, often one can note quite clearly when it is "switched on", and off again.

It is not even clear whether the Hum represents just one or several different kind of phenomenons. One thing is clear, however: it is no tinnitus, we are not talking about a nervous illness or suffering of the nerves. Tinnitus patients locate the subjective soundsource inside their ears or skull, whereas the Hum is described as being located clearly in the outside environment, though a direction is almost impossible to be given.

The walls of buildings and rooms can serve as amplifying the volume at which the hum is to be heard. It often gets described or referred to as a distant Diesel running, construction machines at far distance, or a water pump running, or the sound that badly isolated tubes of teleheating system can create. If it is hard, it is coming from everywhere, and it is everywhere.

Theories are many, from tectonic acitvities of continental plates, to waves hitting the rocks on a distant shore, electromagnetic fields around powerplants and gridlines, and cosmic radiation. The ELF communication system of the US navy to radio its submarines around the globe is loved to get quoted by certain guys. The latest I read was about gravitational waves :D . The most absurd theory said it are aliens telling us they come for dinner - with us being their meal. Microwave-cooking over a distance, so to speak.

It can be technology-caused, but reports on people hearing a strange humming sound date back centuries already. In Britain it became known since the 50s, in America it was examined in depth in New Mexico in the town of Taos in the be late 80s (thus the phenomeneon often gets called as The Taos Hum), and since some years there even are live recordings of the sound in the air. This is critical, since there are as many explanations for accoustic wave sources as there are theories for electromagnetic wave sources. We know that some people can "hear'" the Aurora Borealis, some people can hear the entrance of meteors into the upper layers of Earth's atmosphere , both phenomenons produce immense quantums of electromagnetic energy that the human body may fetch up like an antenna would do - maybe with the nervous system or parts of the brain, both functioning bioelectrical, or with the skin. Accoustic waves can be received also by the bones of the human body, and the skin.

In the early sixties, a scientist at the Cornell university in New York demonstrated that people who since their birth had no aural nerves, could get accoucstic perceptions by exposing their brain to (harmless) electromagnetic waves. It got described as a cracking, chaotic rumbling sound. While maintainign the exposition, the perception could be interrupted when putting a plaster with I think metallic fibres on their foreheads, so that the exposition of the brain was reduced or completly blocked.

Some people claim they can listen to radars operating in certain low frequency ranges.

TBC.

ikalugin 04-03-17 07:20 AM

Halucinations maybe?

I remember the old story told me by an МЧС officer (they are firefighters/emergency responders).

A man asked them to check out a person who lives in the appartment above him, as he was allegedly irradiating him, being the jew-free mason conspirator he is.
So the officer comes up to his appartments and sees tin foil everywhere. He then checks out the appartment above and sees microwaves on the floor irradiating the appartment below. So he asks, why does the man living in the appartment above irradiate the man living in the appartment below. As it turns out he was doing it because he believed that he would get rid of that nibiru-reptiloid conspirator who lives below.

Skybird 04-03-17 07:42 AM

Why do I write about this? Simple. I am affected by this since ealy March. And it kills my sleep and makes it very difficult to find sleep without help.

The sound I hear, so far I compared to this recording from Zurich some years ago. The frequency range matches, but the soudn quality of what i hear, was different, nverheless a comaprison and refernce to me seemd to be legitimate. Listhe tot his with headohones, it is important, they give you a better representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FMkbAqQE7c

Today I foud the laboratiory sound arhcive by Sony, and I was stunned to finaly, meet my enbemy ear to ear at closest possible distance, so to speak. What I hear every night, and often during the day, is exactly sounding like this, it is as if the sound has been taken right out of my ears.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdi0jQtMqV8

Exactly 100Hz. That makes you think: electricity, power gridlines and so on.

And sometimes, when the humming sound is not present, there seems to be a seocnd, underlaying sound, extrenely difficult to ntoice, very silent, and very ver ylow in frequenzy, in german I think of it as "Rumpenln", a rumbling, chaotic sound, it sound like what yiou may hear in this recording, in the range at 28-35 Hz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqfPx8peqNI

When I abruptly turn my head, the humming sound is delayed, I mean for a split of a seocnd I do not hear it, and then it is back again. It is as if it needs to catch up with the ears new position.

The sound is both inside and outside the house. it is "covering the whole city region" that I exained in dispair two weeks AGO - at 4 a.m. in the morning. I visited all known costrucitons ites to see if they had Diesel runnign to supply light for nihtly construction works, or water pumps to keep the groudnw ater away. All these sites were silent.

When I run, the sound again needs to catch up. When I walk in the flat, or tun in palce, again astrange delay as if the soundwaves need to catch up with my moving ears.

Last week I was for testing with an ear dictor, and he went into the lab and tested my ears. He said my ears are perfect, only once every cupe fo years he meets somebody with as sharp ears, he said. When I was young, I could hear at last some of the sounds that baits make to navigate, and the shrill sounds by which they stun their orey sometimes send needles int my ears. I mean I have extrenely good ears, still, at the age of 50, and there were no signs whatever of a Tinnitus.

Tonight was a great discovery for me. So far I spend every night with playing a CD with white noise in endless loops: rain, wind in fields, water ticklugs away<, train on ails, stuff lie that. It got me some relief from the Hum, it offered my brain an lterntaive anchor to focus on, beside the humming sound, and I tuned it loud enough that it somewhat drowned the hum a bit.Yeserday I made a new CD, and used it, the sund is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFBjfzsOtx0

And it works wonders. The Hum gets completely neutrlaised by it.Not drowned, but nuetrlaised - it is completely "switched off", even at a very low volume setting already, much lower than the white noise I played in the nights before. If you compare this to the recordngs above, you note that they all are in the same frequency range. I think the spoaceship ambience sound indeed neutrlaises the waves of the sound, comoarable to how electrnci ear gdgets do it and then get called acive ear protection. There seems to be some kind of an inteference between both sounds waves.

Maybe this is helpful for somebody reading this and who happen to hear the same damn thing like I do.

If somebody knows additional helpful advise, I would be thankful to learn about it.

And if you do not know what all the tlakign is about and wonder - be thnakful that you are part of the happy majority not being affected. The Hum really can kill your nerves.

And anothe rquestion i have. Does someboy know about the power distrubution procedures of electric ralways? I live 200m beside a track, it has four tracks which all are electric, obviously. i wonder whether the rail companies always have all the grid and all the tracks unde rpwer, or switch electricty on and off accrding to demand on the given track. I have noticed in the first weeks that there was kind of a timetable the Hum was following. It appeared between 1 and 3 am (before smmer time switch), and then lasted untl 6-7 am, then cam eback at around 10am and lasted untl maybe 15:00, for the later afternoon, evenbing and first half of the night it as silent, and then it began from start again. This week however, it starts around 2 am, then lasts until early afternoon with non-systematic interruption over the morning, late afternoon and evening it is silent, and at 2am plus/minus 5 minutes it starts again. At night it is the loudest. I wonder whether somebody pushes buttons, switches someting on and off somewhere.

It is not in the house. Not the water tubes. Not the heating. Not the oven'S waterpumps. No howling wind in emtpy tubes.

Skybird 04-03-17 07:48 AM

Finally, a note on this phenomenon being caused by modern technology. It can be like this, but it must not be like this. Reports on the hum are globally, and as I said: 2% of people seem to be affected. That includes places in the wild, distant from industry and powerlines, in the lonely mountains. There are whole regional populations in some god-forsaken valleys telling us "Our mountain hums" and that they know it since their early childhood. Electromagnetic symptoms can be caused by technology - but as well could have natural origins. And "blessed" people already in the ancient times of the Greek were reported to be able (I would say they were cursed) to listen to the "sound of the Earth" directly.

In the end, all materially existing things are waves, are vibrating, are sound. The universe is sound. Matter is wave. Nada Brahma.

My father hears it since several years already. I always laughed about it. I do no more. He had his ears checked, they are okay, just old and not as good as earlier. No Tinnitus.

ikalugin 04-03-17 07:51 AM

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Why do I write about this? Simple. I am affected by this since ealy March. And it kills my sleep and makes it very difficult to find sleep without help.
Did you consider visiting a doctor specialising in psycology and neurology?

Skybird 04-03-17 08:03 AM

Some links I found during my quest:

https://newrepublic.com/article/132128/maddening-sound

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-1424317.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sc...hum/report.htm


severla sub-pages here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sc..._hum/index.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sc...e_hum/frey.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sc...um/ingalls.htm



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...855.6211458333


There even was a long essay in the Scientific American, but I failed to find it again so far.

Much more can be found via search engines.

In Germany, the phenomenon is described since the late 90s. A sound recording by the German federal office for emmission control and protection, was successful in the early 00-years near Stuttgart - but it showed an atypical sound of around 8Hz in the area of Stuttgart, origin unknown. Its more the lower of the two sounds I seem to hear, as described above.

Victims suffering from this phenomenon can sometimes be drastically affected. The hum can cause headches, intense neck pain, and nose bleeding. Some people are crying out in relief when meeting the first time ever other victims, since they did not know they were not alone with their personal history, and only met people so far who did not believe them or claimed them to be insane. A couple of suicides has been reported from across Europe. Sometimes, though rarely apparently, the hum is heard so loud that people must yell to communicate.

2% of people around the globe seem to be able to hear it. That translates into millions and millions around the globe.

In Germany, there were several civil organizations founded by citizens trying to establish a descriptive database. They send questionaires and collected the data. After some years all these activites died, due to frustration, the organisers admit. They collected the data, yes: but it did help nothing at all to get closer to a theory or to find answers that could be tested. We still know as much as we knew decades ago: almost nothing.

ikalugin 04-03-17 08:05 AM

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2% of people around the globe seem to be able to hear it. That translates into milliosn and millions around the globe.
Or only 2 percent, which can be attributed either to biological or neurological or psycological causes.
If in your case you are positive that the cause is not biological, I would suggest checking the other two.

Skybird 04-03-17 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2476506)
Did you consider visiting a doctor specialising in psycology and neurology?

I had a medical exam, as I have reported above, and my ears tested by an expert. And I have been psychologist myself, so I know what you are after. Of course I have considered these kinds of explanations, but I must refuse these kinds of explanations. Hum-sufferers often get dismissed as suffering from some kind of illness or nervous damage or hallucinations. It just is not true. You cannot live-record hallucinations on magnetic tape. But this has been done, check youtube.

I cannot say with all certainty that it is either accoustic wave-transmission via dhte carrier medium of the air, or electromagntic listening. I also cannot say with certainty that the Hum has just one origin or is just one phenomenon, or maybe is a label that must be understod to describe a whole group of different possible manifestations.

Certain i am of this only: no matter whether I hear something accoustically or have the sound created by my brain in interpretation of signal input - the source, the cause of this is not a hallucination, and it is outside of my body, in the environment, may it be near or distant. The white noise of the spaceship ambience indicates that it is indeed an accoustic wavefront hitting my place, because the CD's sound playing interferes with the Hum, while other White Noise sounds - for example rain falling or waves hitting the beach - just get drowned if I set the volume high enough. Its different, and the spaceship sound is very close to the frequency range of 100Hz.

Skybird 04-03-17 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2476511)
Or only 2 percent, which can be attributed either to biological or neurological or psycological causes.
If in your case you are positive that the cause is not biological, I would suggest checking the other two.

Again, you cannot record hallucinations on magnetic tape - as a physical sound recording. ;) But such recordings have been done.

My father hears it, too - and on several occasions when I was with my parenbts we noticed the same time, the same second, when the sound went on or off. My mother heards nothing.

People not knowing the Hum often dismiss it as a medical issue of any kind. But they can only do so by ignoring a whole lot of facts that speak against that. Many sufferers from the Hum often have an odyssey through the medical labs and university clinics behind them. Without result. And yes, some of them have a tinnitus - as many as to be found amongst the non-humming population. The vulnerability to schizophrenia, and drug abuse, also seem to be not higher or lower than with the ordinary population. Accoustic hallucinations like this however are very untypical for schizophrenia, btw.

Maybe it is a Russian experiment, an attack by antennas transmitting behaviour-altering wave patterns to unsettle Western populations and raise the level of nervousness in an attempt to increase the chance for civil unrest and so to destabilize Western countries. Such experiments were done by Russians and Americans in the 50s and 60s.
:timeout:

ikalugin 04-03-17 08:26 AM

Did you ever consider paranoia?

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Maybe it is a Russian experiment, an attack by antennas transmitting behaviour-altering wave patterns to unsettle Western populations and raise the level of nervousness in an attempt to increase the chance for civil unrest and so destabilize Western countries. Such experiments were done by Russians and Americans in the 50s and 60s.
I told that story about the two crazy men for a reason. But if you want we could study how much energy one would need to create this ambient noise.

p.s. you can create a physics model. I mean you know the frequency range, human aural theshhold and the area/time coverage so you can calculate sonic wave energy in that noise.

Skybird 04-03-17 09:04 AM

I did not consider paranoia. I also excluded alien abduction, beer intoxication and too much masturbation having rotten my brain.

Stop it.

ikalugin 04-03-17 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2476525)
I did not consider paranoia. I also excluded alien abduction, beer intoxication and too much masturbation having rotten my brain.

Stop it.

Thank god I don't drink beer.

I asked about paranoia because you discussed other possible psycological causes.

Skybird 04-03-17 09:42 AM

Psychological causes do not get aurally recorded on magnetic tape. As long as its not about the subject screaming.

Skip that medical and psychological stuff, the only things that may apply here are

- that humans may develope the sensibility for hearing this sound over ther life, with a climax in the age group 50-70, and then dropping again, meaning that after that that sensibility may decrease again;

- and that some humans can hear "electromagnetically", they can hear the Auroa Borealis and meteors in the ionosphere due to their electromagnetic signature that in any way may interact with the bioelectrically active part of the human body: nervous system, and brain. Some may even be able to "hear" radar, certain bands of it at least. It is not about accoustic but "electromagnetic listening". Accoustic wave travelling plays no role here.

This can lead to indeed the brain forming the idea of an accoustic sound - where there is no accoustic sound, but that idea nevertheless bases on external (electro magnetic) stimulus input. It is not a hallucination therefore, and also does not compare to tinnitus.

But when the hum gets recorded with microphones on tape, then it must be an accoustic phenomenon with waves travelling via the carrier medium of the air, same is true for the circumstance that repeatedly now me and my father noticed at the same time the Hum switching on or off when I was visiting my parents - they live on the other side of the city, 8-9 km in a straight line away.

No tinnitus. No paranoia. No hallucination and no collective hysteria. And my ears sharp and sensible and healthy like that of a lynx.

Personally I think that the hum is a label that must be understood to describe not just one but several possible manifestations of the phenomenon. Maybe it even are different phenomenons, I would not rule that out.

Buddahaid 04-03-17 11:18 AM

Apparently it's below my laptop frequency response as I heard nothing.

Skybird 04-03-17 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2476554)
Apparently it's below my laptop frequency response as I heard nothing.

Thats why I said "headphones". ;)

Or it is your ears.

The hum is 100Hz for sure. Not a too low and difficult-to-hear frequency.

Test ears and hardware with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k

And, ehem: "headphones". :)

Sailor Steve 04-03-17 12:25 PM

I can honestly say I've never heard anything like that outside a recorded tone. Of course if only 2% of people hear it then it's not surprising I'm one of the ones who hasn't. That it has been recorded outside in controlled conditions is fascinating. I'm interested in learning more about this.

Side-note: In the ear tests I could hear everything quite clearly from the bottom to the top, but I found the rumble that begins around 25-30 Hz to be an awesome sound. Thanks for posting this.

Skybird 04-03-17 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2476567)
That it has been recorded outside in controlled conditions is fascinating. I'm interested in learning more about this.

It is very difficult and thus doe snot get done often. In Germany, such exminatiosn are run by the Bundesanstalt für Emmissionsschutz (federal office for emmission protection), but the measuring and recording is very difficult and costs a lot of money - and most of the time the results are without much value. Often they also simply missed the time window when the hum appears.

Its threatening and somewhat intimdiating if you ride on bicycle through a city like mine at 4 a.m. on Sunday morning, no activty anywhere, everythign peaceful and silent - just this monstrous humming in the air like a threat from outer space, a cloud of sound laying over the city. Not pleasant.

If you are interested in this sound, you may want to google for the study they did in Taos, New Mexico, in I think 1988 or so. "Taos Hum" it is called. There are or have been many Hums: the Bristol Hum, the Zurich Hum and so forth, but that is misleading, since it is a truly global phenomenon.

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Side-note: In the ear tests I could hear everything quite clearly from the bottom to the top, but I found the rumble that begins around 25-30 Hz to be an awesome sound. Thanks for posting this.
That low rumbling is very silent, and hard to notice, I often am not even certain that it is there. But on other times I indeed am quite certain that there actually are these TWO sounds for sure: the 100Hz sound thta is loud and clear, and the 25-30Hz sound that only can be heard when anything else is silent. Then it sounds very threatening.

In the ear test I can hear everythign at the bottom end of 20Hz, up to almost 15 KHz, which for my age of 50 years means I still hear far above average and have ears of a below 40 year old.

Sailor Steve 04-03-17 12:53 PM

I took it again and noted the precise numbers. I first started to hear the rumble at 26 Hz and lost it at 4.8 KHz.

Skybird 04-03-17 04:19 PM

If you cannot hear 4800 Hz, this probably indicates a serious damage then, for usually, as far as I read, 8000 Hz is the minimum of what healthy old people should hear, even at higher ages above 80. And as far as I kow you still have not hit that age mark, eh?

Having pulled those guitar strings too hard, maybe? My father has been professional musician, too (bassoon), having the brass players blowing right in his neck in all those years (thats the sitting order in a sinfonic orchestra), he has damaged ears now, too.

There are videos at youtube that mark biological age and associated frequencies. When we become older, we all loose the ablity to listen to the high frequencies, we start at around 20 Khz, and it then drops to around 8 KHz at high age. Somebody who can merely hear 12 KHz, is assumed to be below 50 years, 15 KHz represents below 40 years, 16 KHz is typical for ages below 30, 18 KHz equals below 20, 19 KHz is below 15 years. I am 50, but can hear 15 KHz still, so I am doing well in these regards. :) The times when I was even hearing the low frequency calls of bats however are over since long (bats can call and listen in the range of low 20s of KHz up to 200 KHz).

Skybird 04-06-17 06:07 AM

I visited the Osnabrück area recently, which is 45-50 km north-east of where I live. After 30 km of that trip done, there is the small town of Lengerich at the foot of the 260m elevations of the Teutoburger Forest (south).

The hum in the past 3-4 days, has shifted its activity cycle, the past nights have been silent, but it starts in the mornign and now lasts all day long, until the evening.

When I passed Lengerich, 30km away from my home, the hum dissappeared, and Osnabrück was silent. When i travelled back again, and again passed Lengerich, it appeared again.

Assuming that I did not hit a pause in the hum that just coincided with that travelling mark, It seems that at least at north-eastern direction this sound emitts up to 30 km distance. Mind you, in the past couple of days the hum lasted all day long, from morning to evening.

I wonder whether it could be some satellites using some kind of EM emissions to cartograph earth.

Anyhow, during the day the hum can be dealt with easier than at night. If only it would stay at least as it is now. At least I had some nights of sleep now - without white noise CDs.


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