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Saturnalia 06-29-09 10:36 PM

Operation Monsoon- How do I survive air attacks?
 
Running about as a Type IXD2, which seems to take about four minutes to reach periscope depth. I have thus found that fighting it out on the surface tends to give a better survival rate, considering the usual rate of approach of a bomber and the long, long dive time. Any tips on how to keep my big, slow boat alive?

Morpheus 06-29-09 11:20 PM

your boats crew's skill is deciding upon diving times etc. so with a diving time of 4 minutes to P depth i guess your crew is sleeping and you are doing everything by your self? :-?

try the following:
- give general quarters before diving (this puts all the crew in charge, and therefore speeds up the boats "skills")
- dont press "D" for dive, but "C" for Crashdive

cheers
morph

P.S. i was very delighted of the IX/D2 and i think to remember a diving time of 30 seconds ...

Saturnalia 06-30-09 01:19 AM

Would you happen to know which compartments most affect diving time? I've been swapping in more competent crew members, but I seem to be a bit short on officers and petty officers considering the number of areas.

XTBilly 06-30-09 01:23 AM

I absolutely agree with Morpeus.

Going to periscope depth isn't going to save you.
Crash dive as fast as you can when enemy plane is detected.
Fighting them risks your boat.

The quality of the command room personnel is a major factor.

Saturnalia 06-30-09 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XTBilly (Post 1126190)
I absolutely agree with Morpeus.

Going to periscope depth isn't going to save you.
Crash dive as fast as you can when enemy plane is detected.
Fighting them risks your boat.

The quality of the command room personnel is a major factor.

I was just using time to periscope depth as a measurement, I try to go for 70-90 meters of depth. As for quality, obviously someone has been passing out booze to command staff.

XTBilly 06-30-09 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturnalia (Post 1126191)
I was just using time to periscope depth as a measurement, I try to go for 70-90 meters of depth. As for quality, obviously someone has been passing out booze to command staff.

:haha::haha::haha:

Sailor Steve 06-30-09 12:01 PM

'C' key. In a Type IX a dedicated crash dive takes me about 45 seconds to get underwater in Ops Monsun.

"Alaaaaaaaaarm!"

Saturnalia 06-30-09 10:31 PM

I must have SOMETHING wrong on my boat, that or the crew are busy picking their noses.

EgoApocalypse 07-01-09 07:54 AM

I think time compression could have something to do with too, the higher the time compression is. The closer to the boat the plane will be spotted, then less time to react. Do u use high time compression? I could be wrong....

AVGWarhawk 07-01-09 08:01 AM

As some have mentioned in this thread use D key or C key to dive. The dive angles is increased and the time is decreased. Only hit the P key for periscope depth if you are already under. All boats dived first then made way for periscope depth or whatever depth they wanted to obtain. :03:

PS. Besides that the IX is a big old girl and a nice target for the aircraft but she carrys a lot of torpedoes and fuel. If you play her with the abilities she has your patrols can be very successful.

Saturnalia 07-01-09 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1126893)
As some have mentioned in this thread use D key or C key to dive. The dive angles is increased and the time is decreased. Only hit the P key for periscope depth if you are already under. All boats dived first then made way for periscope depth or whatever depth they wanted to obtain. :03:

PS. Besides that the IX is a big old girl and a nice target for the aircraft but she carrys a lot of torpedoes and fuel. If you play her with the abilities she has your patrols can be very successful.

Odd update, thankfully the great big thing is diving a bit quicker now, after antifreeze rations were eliminated. Crew training has been enhanced with a flipbook with pop up pages, so they can easily comprehend that closing things fast is good.

Speedo 07-01-09 09:11 AM

Can some one give me a link from there download operation monson?

AVGWarhawk 07-01-09 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedo (Post 1126924)
Can some one give me a link from there download operation monson?


At the top of the forums you will see Downloads with a nice yellow NOW OPEN sign:03: All you goodies are there.

Saturnalia 07-17-09 02:57 PM

After some time playing, I have determined that the fault was with the very poor starting skills my crew had. After swapping out the antifreeze drinking idiots and slapping in those with 25+ skill, the boat began to dive somewhat more quickly.

Rockin Robbins 07-28-09 07:58 AM

Yes!!!:up: Experience plus locking up the antifreeze works just about every time. The key is to survive long enough for the experience to help you.

Many rookie boats were sunk in the Bay of Biscay without having fired a single torpedo.

Saturnalia 07-29-09 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 1141245)
Yes!!!:up: Experience plus locking up the antifreeze works just about every time. The key is to survive long enough for the experience to help you.

Many rookie boats were sunk in the Bay of Biscay without having fired a single torpedo.

Well, that's what they get for drinking the antifreeze and huffing seagulls.

Task Force 07-29-09 01:14 AM

so actualy where are you...:hmmm:

@ Welcome to subsim david dutch.

green_abobo 08-27-09 06:06 PM

rule number 1. dont screw around with planes on O.M., they are vicious.sure they might miss you the first time,don't press your luck.

the solution,dont go through shallow areas,especially near enemy ports. try to plan your route to deeper waters only. if your crew does spot aircraft,all ahead flank,and crash dive to at least 40+ meters. ( i prefer more like 60 meters). when deep enough,all stop and make like a bubble in the water, and just time compress until night when it's much safer to be surfaced.

if you must go through shallow areas near land,do so only at night when the planes aren't out scouting as much.

the sneaky thing with planes too, i noticed, is they're vengeful. if you just killed a contact in an area,there's bound to be a patrol through there very soon. kill and g.t.f.o. of there.:arrgh!: or do the above until night when it should be safer.

later on in the campaign,you receive dive command officers with passive abilities to help you dive faster, (i noticed mine appeared after i went up in rank) and reduce flooding,which will certainly help you out too. (they need to be in the control room for the ability to be active)

hope this helps.

renthewog 09-13-09 08:32 PM

Yesterday i was playing OPMonsoon, in a VII boat i think it was, in the '39 career..and i was in rough seas trying to dive to evade an aircraft swooping me over n over again, and it took forever to dive! i was wondering if it might have been a glitch with the mod, or if its just THAT realistic, you dont dive as quick because of the bow and stern planes are boucing up out of the water it can barely pull the sub down under water..i had all crew at battle stations, and we were sitting there for ages trying to dive when i keep giving command "crash dive" "dive" and "periscope depth" or just simply choose a depth on the depth meter..nothing happend for ages..

Wijbrandus 09-15-09 01:29 PM

I've noticed that I have much better dive times when I put my crew at "all hands" before I hit the crash dive.

That said, diving in rough water is a bitch.


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