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You're my new god

My dream has come true...a surface command :lol:

This was beyond my dream!A torpedo boat!i would have used even a trawler...but this is better!
Thanks,and good work!

Only a question,can i use eventually with GWX?

Fantastic work. :up:

I'm wondering if you have any sources for the interior, so that it can be modeled as well? Don't get me wrong - the external modding work you have completed so far is extraordinary.

Also, do you think it would be possible to create a mod where you can actually play an S-Boat campaign, complete with appropriate interface screens, etc? That would be wonderful.

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I half-fixed the flag, position is corrected and it won't move upside down when you order crash dive (was linked to the aft dive plane). It also reflects on the water, but for some reason it still doesn't wave in the wind :hmm:

Also I finally got totally rid of the 3rd torpedo tube, there's no "III" button anymore on the uzo/tdc screen, and the torpedo management screen shows only 2 tubes and 2 spare torpedoes. Also changed the default torpedo loadout, so that from 1939 to 1945, the default torps are T1. I chose them because they're the only ones to be faster than the boat. (I have been almost sunk by my own slow TII 2 times in testing)

About the torpedoes: I've read somewhere (I'll find the reference if you wish and/or need) that only the schnellboots used the 44kt torpedo speed settings of the T1. U-boats used the slow and medium speeds only, and the schnellboots used only the fast settings. Ever since I read that I only used the slow and medium settings on my torpedoes.

The G7a or G7a/T1 torpedo was the standard issue torpedo for Germany during the early years of World War II. The torpedo was of standard German specifications for all U-Boat torpedoes of the war at 53.3cm (21in) in diameter, 7.163m in length, and with a warhead of 280kg Hexogen.
The torpedo was of a straight running unguided design, stabilized by a gyroscope. The G7a was of variable speed, running a distance of 6km at 44kts, 8km at 40kts, and 14km at 30kts. The 44kts setting was used only by torpedo boats like the Schnellboote. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7a_torpedo)

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Albrecht Von Hesse

Thanks ! I'm glad it's accurate, I won't have to change it back under the "historical accuracy lobby" pressure :rotfl:
It's not precised, but I would guess that S-boote used fast T1 troughout the whole war, since none of the following torpedoes were faster than 30 knots (at least I didn't find any in the torpedo.dat file)

I don't think they were all that worried about leaving torpedo wakes on the surface. I'm pretty sure that, by the time the schnellboots were in attack range potential targets were already aware of the possibilities of being torpedoed! ;) :p

Sorry.
I have not seen anything new ...
For three years much modders tried to do playable units ...

Sublime, keep up the good work! Really looking forward to this

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Originally Posted by Albrecht Von Hesse

The 44kts setting was used only by torpedo boats like the Schnellboote. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7a_torpedo)

They don't give a source for that quote. Navweaps says nothing about it, and they quote several sources. On the other hand, they do say that the fast setting was troublesome early in the war as it caused the torpedo engine to overheat.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTGER_WWII.htm

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I don't have much reference on that boat at the moment, apparently there were lots of different gun configurations. I ordered this http://buch-arsenal.de/images/4018sc...tia350x266.jpg last week, hopefully it will clarify a bit and I'll arrange the gun settings for each year then.

S-Boat construction groups:

- Group S1 (1930)
- Group S2 (1932)
- Group S6 (1933-34)
- Group S10 (1934-35)
- Group S14 (1936-38)
- Group S18 (1938-39)
- Group S26 (1940)
- Group S30 (1939-41)
- Group S38 (1939-43)
- Group S100 (1943-45)
- Group S700 (1944-45)

S-Boat armament (by group):

S-1 - 2xTorp; 1x20mm
S-2-5 - 2xTorp; 1x20mm
S-6-9 - 2xTorp; 1x20mm
S-10-13 - 2xTorp; 1x20mm
S-14-17 - 4xTorp; 1x20mm
S-18-25 - 4xTorp; 1x20mm
S-26-29 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-30-37 - 2xTorp; 2x20mm
S-38-53 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-54-61 - 2xTorp; 2x20mm
S-62-80 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-81-83 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm
S-84-97 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-98-99 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm
S-100 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm
S-101-133 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-134-135 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-136 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-137 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-138-146 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-147-150 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm
S-151-158 - 2xTorp; 1x15mm; 1x20mm
S-159-166 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm (proposed, boats not built)
S-167-186 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-187-194 - 4xTorp; 2x20mm
S-195-200 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm; 2xMG34
S-201-202 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm; 2xMG34
S-203-218 - 4xTorp; 1x40mm; 1x20mm; 2xMG34
S-219-228 - 4xTorp; 6x30mm
S-229-300 (proposed, boats not built)
S-301-307 - 4xTorp; 6x30mm
S-308-500 (proposed, boats not built)
S-701-709 - 4xTorp; 6x30mm
S-710-800 (proposed, boats not built)

May not be 100% accurate, but close enough.

You'll also find more info here and here.

I'm quite interested in this, so once you've got the boat working, if you need any assistance in creating playable campaigns (including creating S-Flotillas, new ports, patrol grids and the like), just let me know.

how bout a commerce raider like a dd or the Scharnhurst next?? they were used as commerce raider ships during the war...

Your persistence is paying off...really looks great.

Cannot wait until it is finished and released...

This looks very interesting.

whats the range on this thing?

Ok...attempt 4

Is there any chance of having a Detchland class as a commerce raider ship....so we can really lay the pain on some ships.

i think this would be fair, we could make it almost impossible to NOT see on the surface and you must come up on a convoy to attack it and dare it's defenses!! Just think, meeting a task force and slugging it out with the big guns!

yeah hes right, we should get a nice comerce raider, or some kind of cruiser, its one thing to be the bismark, and rule the sea, but being your average cruiser? thatd be challenging aswell

I think the S boot is a good choice
The trouble with a heavy cruiser upwards is there is no challange unless you meet a battlegroup with a heavy or 2

I fully agree, Schnelboots forever!

The big boys wouldbe nice,, but BORING,, fast in,, fast out,

I built some for Trainz, Love the s-100 klasse

http://www.pbase.com/image/66930614.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/66930641.jpg

Amazing work! Very promising. :up:

i would still love a Detchland class, would be fun...heck if we make it almost impossible to miss on the surface, 3 DD's would still be somthing you would not want on you. or Maybe just that "Commerce Raider" ship you see in game....