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Hydra 12-31-09 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40 (Post 1228123)
I'm sure a solution is in the works.:yep: Let's not get our panties in a bunch.

You might wear panties, but I, sir, wear knickers that are in a twist!

LukeFF 12-31-09 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1228112)
RFB team, any ideas/fixes ?

I'll get a new file up ASAP. Apparently there are some bugs with the latest 7z compression format. Hang in there. :)

vanjast 12-31-09 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 1227871)
RFB doesn't touch anything with the campaigns. That's all Lurker's territory. :)

It would be nice to know what it does/doesn't touch ?
:cool:

LukeFF 12-31-09 10:08 PM

Alright, the link has been fixed and should be working correctly now. :)

Fish40 01-01-10 12:47 AM

Thanks Luke! Happy New Year to you and the team!:woot:

The General 01-01-10 09:10 AM

Looks and runs great! :up: Although, I just sunk a 10 000 t tanker that would not register on sonar in a 1943 Gato. It had a deck gun that didn't fire at me and there was no sound of it sinking and breaking-up on sonar either, which was always a nice touch. The circular radar grid looks great but is a bit intrusive when the radar blips are so small.

Djanico 01-01-10 11:30 AM

no contact updates on map
 
Was this disabled in 2.0? i know i was able to allow map contact updates on 1.5

Fish40 01-01-10 12:15 PM

Only briefly tried one of the "Single Missions". I liked "Historical" better, but oh well. I liked the tweaked interiors that I saw (1942 Gato: extra lights on the Sonar panel, and around the control room).

Wanted to ask a question. I enabled a couple of mods which were compatable with the last version. I don't seem to see any problems (Yet) since I don't think these mods conflicted with anything added in 2.0. I may be wrong, so if Luke or anyone else feels there may be a problem, please say so. The mods are: Keldunks tweaks, which included exhaust smoke, and less Limber Hole water streams. Arclight's color filter for the Obs. scope., and the EAX sound mod (forget who the author is). Like I said, I'm useing the versions which were compatable with the previous version of RFB.

Also wanted to say I love the new wind sound. I wish someone could fix the problem with the "sound duration". I hate the way sounds, particularly thunder, cuts off abruptly:damn:

HMCS 01-01-10 12:34 PM

Looks terrif; wasn't quite ready for no map contacts, but adjusted quickly and managed to sink a large old merchie no problem at all. Not sure how hard it's going to be tracking and sinking at night, though.

Ditto the issue already noted on the small radar blips. Would not the radar operator be able to give bearing and range if asked?

Jten 01-01-10 02:49 PM

No map contacts, 2.0 is coming out of my install. Guess I'll stick with 1.5

Bubblehead1980 01-01-10 03:15 PM

re
 
Downloading 2.0 again, thanks for the hard work and quick fix guys.

As far as no map contacts, well i will try it, will be pain not being able to have a "display" for air contacts but will manage.

Perhaps someone out there could whip up a mod for RFB 2.0 that brings back map contacts but in the fashion of TMO, the small black dots instead of the stock style silhouettes.Just a thought.

Bubblehead1980 01-01-10 05:04 PM

Some questions on 2.0....


IS there a way to get the conning tower free view, such as in the control room.Only view in CT i have been able to get is the sonar and radar stations.I HATE being stranded in the control room, esp in a gato where the captain always was during an attack etc.

Also, no planesmen except at GQ? kind of funny for boat to dive when on normal watch without planesmen .

Overall though, i am liking what i see, good job.Hopefully there is a CT view and i am just missing.I tried right clicking and it took me back to the control room, blah.

Djanico 01-01-10 05:24 PM

I guess my thing with no map contact is, The stock game gives me the option of either having it on or off. So whats the point of forcing it on me off when i can chose via the game weather or not to want it?

I understand one can argue the fact its not 100% "realistic", but give the players some leverage on how they decide how they want to play their game.

LukeFF 01-01-10 05:52 PM

Re: no chart contacts:

Sadly, there is no perfect solution for chart contact plotting in SH4. Ultimately, either the player is given one of two choices:
  • Being given too much information (i.e., chart contacts automatically plotted and updated in real time)
  • Being given too little information. (i.e., no automatic plotting of chart contacts).
Until something changes with the game's coding (hopefully with SH5) RFB (and the future RUB) will continue to defer to the latter choice. Trust me, I want a more realistic plotting system as much as you guys, but we can only work with the game engine's coding so much.

Fish40 01-01-10 05:59 PM

At Hitman: I'm glad the team included your binocular/TBT FOV changes. Not to be a wise #ss or anything, but did the real Fleet Boat binoculars have the range markings in them like the mod? I'm just asking because I really don't know.:hmmm:

Spike 01-01-10 06:01 PM

How do you install this?

LukeFF 01-01-10 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1228716)
IS there a way to get the conning tower free view, such as in the control room.Only view in CT i have been able to get is the sonar and radar stations.I HATE being stranded in the control room, esp in a gato where the captain always was during an attack etc.

Click on the hatch that leads to the conning tower (it will be highlighted when you mouse over it), and you'll be taken to the conning tower free view camera.

Quote:

Also, no planesmen except at GQ? kind of funny for boat to dive when on normal watch without planesmen .
Another one of those design decisions we had to make, given the way the game is coded. In reality, two of the lookouts would man the dive planes when the boat submerged. Otherwise, the dive planes would not be manned while the boat was on the surface. The choice, then, was to either add six seamen to the boat's roster that would otherwise not be part of the ship's complement or to leave the planes unmanned, except at GQ. Of course, we went with the latter choice as the lesser of two evils.

Hitman 01-01-10 06:06 PM

Quote:

did the real Fleet Boat binoculars have the range markings in them like the mod? I'm just asking because I really don't know.:hmmm:
Yes they did!

Bausch & Lomb released several different models/versions of their binoculars for Navy use, and many came with ranging reticle :up: see table below:

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SCHEDULE OF BINOCULARS, NAVY DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF SHIPS, FILE NUMBER S2407 - 533074.  8|2|44.    ARRANGED BY PETER ABRAHAMS, 1996.

MK |MOD |GENERAL ARRANGEMENT |CONTRACTOR |MAGNIFICATION |APERTURE |FIELD (DEGREES) |EYE RELIEF, MM |TRANSMISSION % |BUREAU |STATUS (1944) |REMARKS

MK |MOD| GEN ARR  |CONTRACT|MAG|APER|FIELD| ER MM|TRANS%| BUREAU| STATUS| REMARKS
 1 | - | 637126-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | STRAIGHT AXLE; RUBBER COVERED
 1 | - | 637145-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | TAPERED AXLE, RUBBER COVERED
 1 | - | 24935-C  | B & L  | 7 | 35 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | TAPERED AXLE, PRISM SECURED BY WIRE
 1 | - |45827-O|BUSCH TURLEX|10| 45 | 4  | 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 1 | 1 | 637145-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | TAPERED AXLE, RUBBER COVERED
 1 | 1 | 526537-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | MIL. SCALE
 1 | 1 | 526537-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | BRITISH DEGREE SCALE
 1 | 1 | 500-C    | O.F.S. | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. |
 1 | 1 | 24935-C  | B & L  | 7 | 35 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 1 | 2 | 526545-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | 7  | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | ALUMINUM PARTS DIE CAST & LACQUERED
 1 | 2 | 526559-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | ALUM. PARTS DIE CAST & VINYLITE COVERED
 1 | 2 | 526537-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | ALUM. PARTS DIE CAST & VINYLITE COVERED
 1 | 2 | 500-C    | O.F.S. | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 57.5 | SHIPS | CURR. | SAME AS B & L MK1 MOD 2
 2 | - |45827-O|BUSCH TURLEX|10| -- | 4  | 15  | ---- | ORD  | OBS.  |
 2 | 0 | 536843-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | TAPERED AXLE; PRISM WIRED; SAME AS MK1 & MK1 MOD1
 2 | 2 | 526545-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | SAME AS MK1 MOD2; ALUM. PARTS DIE CAST
 3 | - | 46629-O  | B & L  |6-10|33 |3d50'| 18.5 | ---- | ORD  | OBS.  | VARIABLE POWER
 3 | - | 637163-S | B & L  | 6 | 30 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | TAPERED AXLE
 3 | - | 637158-S | B & L  | 6 | 30 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | STRAIGHT AXLE
 3 | 0 | -------- | SPENCER| 7 | 50 |7d39'| 14.5 | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | TAPERED AXLE
 3 | 1 | 637163-S | B & L  | 6 | 30 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | NEW PRISM MOUNTING, EYE PIECE SHOULDERS ON BODY
 3 | 1 | 481746-S | SPENCER| 6 | 30 |8d54'| 11.3 | 55  | SHIPS | OBS.  | COMMERCIAL STOCK
 3 | 2 | -------- | B & L  | 6 | 30 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | NONE MADE
 3 | 3 | -------- | SPENCER| 6 | 30 |8d54'| 11.3 | 55  | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 3 | 4 | -------- | SPENCER| 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | COMMERCIAL STOCK
 3 | 5 | 494021-S | SPENCER| 7 | 50 |7d39'| 14.5 | 57.8 | SHIPS | OBS.  | COMMERCIAL STOCK

MK |MOD| GEN ARR  |CONTRACT|MAG|APER|FIELD| ER MM|TRANS%| BUREAU| STATUS| REMARKS
 4 | 0 | 44775-O  | B & L  | 5 | 30 |8d24'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 4 | 1 | 44775-O  | B & L  | 5 | 30 |8d24'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 4 | 2 | 50191-O  | B & L  | 5 | 30 |8d24'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 4 | 3 | 55341-O  | B & L  | 5 | 30 |8d24'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 5 | 0 | 46801-O  | B & L  | 7 | 50 | 6  | 15.5 | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 5 | 1 | 48926-O  | B & L  | 7 | 50 | 6  | 15.5 | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 6 | 0 | 68816-O  | N.G.F. | 10| 45 | 4.2 | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 6 | 1 | 68826-O  | N.G.F. | 10| 45 | 4.2 | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 6 | 2 | 68839-O  | N.G.F. | 10| 45 | 4.2 | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 6 | 3 | 17268-C  | B & L  | 10| 45 | 4.2 | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 6 | 4 | 68816-O  | N.G.F. | 10| 45 | 4.2 | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 7 | - | 56588-O  | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 | --- | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 7 | 0 | 66673-O  | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 | 8  | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 7 | 1 | 66674-O  | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 | 8  | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 7 | 2 | 66675-O  | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 | 8  | ---- | ---- | ARMY  | ----- |
 8 | - |34730-O|GLOBE OPTICAL|3| -- | --- | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | GALILEAN
 9 | - | 66686-O  | N.G.F. | 3 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  | GALILEAN
 10| - | 119666-O | N.G.F. | 4 | -- | 10  | 22  | ---- | AERO. | OBS.  |
 11| 0 | 119683-O | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 |8d40'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 11| 1 | 119683-O | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 |8d40'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 11|2-3| 141890-O | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 |8d40'| 15  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 12| 0 | 132869-O | N.G.F. | 10| 45 |5d12'| 14  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 12| 1 | 132869-O | N.G.F. | 10| 45 |5d12'| 14  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 12| 2 | 132869-O | N.G.F. | 10| 45 |5d12'| 14  | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | WATERPROOF
 13| 0 | 105900-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | 57.5 | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 13| 1 | 175965-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | 57.5 | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 13| 2 | 175965-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | 57.5 | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 13| 3 | 105900-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | 57.5 | ORD.  | OBS.  |
 13| 4 | 176489-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | 57.5 | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 13| 5 | 300872-O | SPENCER| 7 | 50 |7d39'| 16  | 57.8 | SHIPS | OBS.  |
 13| 6 | 536843-S | B & L  | - | -- | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | OBS.  |


MK |MOD| GEN ARR  |CONTRACT|MAG|APER|FIELD| ER MM|TRANS%| BUREAU| STATUS| REMARKS
 14| - | -------- | N.G.F. | 6 | 30 |8d40'| 15  | ---- | AERO  | OBS.  | MK 11 WITHOUT MIL SCALE
 15| - | 153551-O | N.G.F. | 7 | 50 |7d 2'| 14  | ---- | ORD.  |EXPMTL.| BAKELITE
 16| - | -------- | B & L  | 6 | 30 |8d36'| ---- | ---- | AERO  | OBS.  | RUBBER EYEGUARD
 17| - | -------- | N.G.F. | 4 | 25 | --- | ---- | ---- | ORD.  |EXPMTL.|
 17| 0 | -------- | SPENCER| 7 | 35 |7d38'| 11  | 80  | AERO  |EXPMTL.|
 18| - | 26609-C  | B & L  | 7 | 35 |7d16'| ---- | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | NOT COATED
 18| - | 29157-C  | B & L  | 7 | 35 |7d16'| ---- | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | LEACHED OPTICS; ROTABLE EYEGUARDS; POLARIZING FILTERS
 19| - | 29544-C  | B & L  | - | -- | --- | ---- | ---- | MARINE| ----- | MIL SCALE - LEFT BARREL
 19| 0 | 300853-O | SPENCER| 6 | 30 |8d54'| 11.3 | 55  | MARINE| ----- | MIL SCALE - LEFT BARREL
 20| - | 300864-O | SPENCER| 7 | 35 |7d10'| 10.7 | 56  | MARINE| ----- |
 21| - | 29329-C  | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 7    | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | RUBBER EYEGUARD; POLARIZING FILTER
 21| - | -------- |KOLLSMAN| 7 | 50 |7d10'| 7    | ---- | AERO  | CURR. |
 22| - | 278591-O | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | ORD.  | OBS.  | OFFSET WEDGE ATTACHMENT. WITH MIL SCALE
 23| - | 29466-C  | B & L  | 10| 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | MK 21 WITH 10 POWER EYEPIECE
 23| - | -------- | B & L  | 10| 50 |5d 5'| 5    | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | RUBBER EYEGUARDS; POLARIZING FILTERS
 24| - | 29461-C  | B & L  | 8 | 56 |6d25'| 7    | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | LEACHED OPTICS; ROTABLE EYEGUARDS; POLARIZING FILTERS
 25| - | -------- | N.G.F. | 10| 70 | --- | ---- | ---- | ORD.  |EXPMTL.| ONLY 2 MADE
 25| 1 | 244100-O | N.G.F. | 10| 70 |5d10'| 13.5 | 79.6 | ORD.  |EXPMTL.| ALTERED MK 13; SUPERSEDED BY MK 37
 26| - | 526545-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | 7  | 14.5 | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | MK 13 WITH RUBBER EYEGUARDS
 27| - | -------- | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | MODIFIED MK 22. RETICLE WEDGE ATTACHMENT OMITTED
 28| - | 526564-S | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | 14.5 | ---- | SHIPS | CURR. | WATERPROOF
 29| 0 | 30326-C  |UNIVERSAL|6 | 30 |8d15'| 10.2 | 50  | SHIPS | OBS.  | ALSO 30297-C
 30| 0 | 494040-S | SPENCER| 7 | 50 |7d39'| 14.5 | 57.8 | SHIPS | CURR. | WATERPROOF
 31| 0 | 481756-S | SPENCER| 6 | 30 |8d54'| 11.3 | 55  | SHIPS | OBS.  | COMMERCIAL STOCK

MK |MOD| GEN ARR  |CONTRACT|MAG|APER|FIELD| ER MM|TRANS%| BUREAU| STATUS| REMARKS
 32| 0 | 471988  | ANCHOR | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. | # IS STD. PLAN #, NOT G. A. WATERPROOF, COATED OPTICS.
 32| 1 |  "      |NATIONAL| 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. |
 32| 2 |  "      |UNIVERSAL|7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. |
 32| 3 | -------- | PERFEX | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CANCEL|
 32| 4 | 533081  | ANCHOR | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. | # IS STANDARD PLAN NUMBER
 32| 5 |  "      |NATIONAL| 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. |
 32| 6 |  "      |UNIVERSAL|7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | SHIPS | CURR. |
 33| 0 | BNS300-C |UNIVERSAL|6 | 30 |8d15'| 10.2 | 50  | SHIPS | CURR. | WATERPROOF
 34| - | -------- | AJAX  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | CANCEL| NONE MADE
 35| - |C-1000043C| AJAX  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | CANCEL|
 35| 1 |C-1000043C| NATIONAL|7 | 50 |7d12'| 14.1 | 50  | SHIPS | OBS.  | ZEISS TYPE
 36| - | 526584-S | B & L  | 10| 50 |7d10'| 14.5 | 77  | ORD.  |EXPMTL.| SANDCAST BODIES
 37| 0 | 254211-O | N.G.F. | 9 | 63 |5d42'| 13.5 | 78.4 | ORD.  | CURR. | MK 13 MODIFIED OBJECTIVE
 38| - | 30175-C  | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 10.7 | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | PRESSURE PROOF
 39| 0 | 30297-C  | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | MK1 MOD2 WITH RETICLE
 39| 1 | 30326-C  | B & L  | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 16  | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | MK 28 WITH RETICLE
 40| - | -------- | ANCHOR | 7 | 50 |7d10'| 14.9 | 75  | MARINE| ----- | MK 32 WITH RETICLE
 41| - | 30257-C  | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | WIDE FIELD
 41| - | -------- | B & L  | 7 | 50 | 10  | 19  | ---- | AERO  | CURR. | RUBBER EYEGUARD
 42| - | -------- | PIONEER| 7 | 50 | 10  | 14  | 70  | AERO  | CURR. | MIRROR PORRO REFLECTORS
 43| - | -------- |KOLLSMAN| 6 | 42 |11d50'|20  | ---- | AERO  | CURR. |
 44| - | -------- |KOLLSMAN| 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | CURR. |
 45| - | -------- | HAYWARD| 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | SHIPS | CURR. | NEW DESIGN
 46| - | -------- | B & L  | 7 | 50 | --- | ---- | ---- | MARINE| CURR. | MK 28 WITH RETICLE
 47| - | -------- | B & L  | 6 | 50 | --- | 27  | ---- | ORD.  | CURR. | PRESSURE PROOF SUBMARINE


GENERAL ARRANGEMENT NUMBERS, FOUND ON CUTAWAY VIEW BLUEPRINTS, WERE USED AS IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS UNTIL REPLACED BY FEDERAL STOCK NUMBERS.
THREE VIEWS WERE PROVIDED FOR EACH INSTRUMENT; THE OUTLINE VIEW (SURFACE), THE GENERAL ARRANGEMENT, AND THE OPTICAL ARRANGEMENT.
IN GENERAL ARRANGEMENT NUMBERS, S = BU SHIPS DRAWING, O = BU ORD DRAWING, C = CUSTOMER'S DRAWING.
STATUS:  CURRENT, OBSOLETE, EXPERIMENTAL, CANCELLED.
CONTRACTORS:  B & L = BAUSCH & LOMB.    O.F.S. = OPTICAL & FILM SUPPLY.    N.G.F. = NAVAL GUN FACTORY.


LukeFF 01-01-10 06:14 PM

Hitman, did I get all the settings right in cameras.dat? I just want to make sure I implemented your mod entirely correct.

Hitman 01-01-10 06:16 PM

Download not yet complete, but I will report tomorrow ASAP :salute: (It's past midnight here :shifty: and I'm off to bed)


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