Yep, I'm at the point I'd rather hang out with Putin than any of those folks. :03:

em2nought posted Catfish's post, but notice he edited the post :o

Originally Posted by Catfish
Isn't it always the democrats, leftists, liberals, snowflakes, being responsible for all the baaaaad in the world

You did not include students, lesbians, or hippies so we must assume that you feel comfortable with the ones you left off :D

Yes indeed.

I do not think somebody will command to start this, but I worrxy about accidental triggering of something messy. Because with so much military attention concentrated in such a small space, "messy accident" easily can lead to "full war - damn, where has this come from?"

Hope its worth it to the American public. To me, it is not.

I also miss a clear definition of the military objectives and their relevance for the US. Destroying Assad's chemical assets? If that is all it implies that killing civilians is tolerable, on the other hands, as long as carried out by artilllery shelling and barrel bombs only. How cynical is that then?

The Russians want Syria, and different to us they are ready to do all dirty job needed to make sure that they get it. Either we have the balls to confront them with all consequences that brings, or we should step aside. Again my question, what is our military objective that is so clearly defined and so valuable that it justifies to go head on with the Russians? So far, all I hear in the media about this is wishy-washy and sentimentality.

Russia has only said that they will shoot down any missiles fired on Syria not that they will sink ships, sink subs or shoot down aircraft.

Yes, that would surely be the beginning of a war limited to the Med and only God knows what happen next :o

I think President Trump is waiting for the CIA director Mike Pompeo (in a hearing right now as I type) to be confirmed as the next Secretary of State before he fires on Syria.

According to
Russia's ambassador to Lebanon, who said any U.S. missiles fired at Syria would be shot down and the launch sites targeted

For me it does sound like they are not just going to intercept those tomahawks, but also will go after the place/thing from where these missiles was fired from

Markus

I stand corrected Markus ... your right after doing a search on the Russian ambassador to Lebanon's exact words that he points back to coming from Putin himself:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...dor/ar-AAvKmrN

Shame on me i started to ask Neal for a cite :oops:

All I have to say is "Bring it on big boy (Putin)"

Bring it on big boy????? Does anyone have any idea why it should be brought on?

Of course not, we are totatlly distracted the palace intrigue.

No problem.

I keep asking the sky, why does the US have to do this? Most Americans don't care two cents about what happens in Syria. Let someone else sort this mess out. We've had enough involvements with these kind of countries and they never work out, it's hopeless.

exactly.

but if you are a U.S. president, you can never win. If do nothing, people will criticize you for that. If you do something, people will criticize you for that, etc.

there is no solution to the Syrian civil war, all you can do at this point is let it burn itself out and try to pick up the pieces afterwards.

I am not aware of anything in Syria that is worth a single US military member's life.

Same here Can't find anything in Syria that is worth the life of an European soldier.

I guess it is, as some political commentator said

Trump and Putin has to mark their territory and it happens to be in a backyard called Syria

Markus

You forgot to include Vegans :03:

By following the news here and in Sweden

I get the feeling it wouldn't be little stick with a needle Trump are planning to give Assad

A Carrie-group is heading into the Mediterranean due to arrive somewhere next week and more ships from England and France should be heading this way.


I hope is nothing more than a show-off.

And not a massive strike against Syria and the possibility for a engagement with Russia.

Markus