Fighting Steel Problem - Help Please [Archive]

frenzied

01-27-06, 04:48 AM

This is a windows XP problem, the only way to get fighting steel to work under XP is to use Fighting Steel project. It also rebalances bits of the game and adds a whole lot of new ships.

http://forums.navalwarfare.org/index.php?

From there go to "NWS - Fighting Steel Project / Thunder at Sea " and then to the download page.
It is free :D

sonar732

01-27-06, 11:55 AM

Game installs fine and loads correctly, however, ANY time I click on the compass to change course I crash to desktop. :(

Help.

As the frenzied stated, NWS-FSP has an awesome mod for Fighting Steel.

fred8615

01-27-06, 12:03 PM

This is a windows XP problem

Specifically, it's a Service Pack 2 AND DirectX 9.0c problem. Installing either or both is what causes the crashing. Game actually works fine with XP without these installed.

Hood

08-23-06, 02:07 PM

My Fighting Steel crashes to desktop also,but this is with Win 98SE
Have reset SYSTEMCHECK to = 0 in DBZLIB.INI
It says: No 2D Hardware device. Resorting to 2D HEL
Error in creating HEL device
Sorry there was an error in initialising DirectDraw
Please make sure DirectDraw 6.0 or greater is installed
I have DirectX 8.1 insalled and Rage Pro Graphics with driver update
pc is an old Pent III @ 480MHz and 384Mb RAM and plenty of space on a 20Gb HDD
apart from "BIN IT" has anyone any advice
cheers
Hood

fred8615

08-24-06, 08:47 AM

I have DirectX 8.1 insalled and Rage Pro Graphics with driver update

Is the Rage Pro an Nvidia card? If so, it's the drivers. Latest Nvidia drivers break FS and FSP.

Hood

08-24-06, 03:01 PM

Sorry, slight error in original text, should have read reset SYSTEMCHECK to = 1 in DBZLIB.INI file.
No graphis card, built-in Rage Pro , latest driver from ATI (wme j5_30-b02) appeared to load ok
Getting brief message on bootup : Error loading driver NDI SHLP. SYS
Which surely cannot bode well?
But immediately afterwards Win 98SE fires up with no obvious ill effects
What I dont know is what program this driver originated in , and is this what is causing the fault
cheers
Hood

fred8615

08-25-06, 08:31 AM

latest driver from ATI (wme j5_30-b02) appeared to load ok

From that filename, it looks like you downloaded a Windows ME driver, not a '98 driver. Fortunately, it is ATI, so the latest drivers should work fine. I have them for my card, and FSP plays perfectly.
I would suggest making double sure you have the correct drivers, and reinstalling them. If it still doesn't work, either downgrade to an older driver, or install DirectX 9.0c. The latest drivers may require it. Other than that, I'm stumped. Maybe wipe, and do a complete reinstall of your entire system?

Hood

08-26-06, 10:01 AM

I was hoping to try to avoid a re-install if poss, but I think perhaps it is the only way.
The annoying thing is, I originally installed and played F.S. (no patches) with no problem. Since then I have altered something,without knowing .
I now have Fighting Steel on one HDD Win Xp Pro which will not run, install, or delete. I also have it on another HDD Win 98SE which appears as a plain black square in the top l.h. side of the monitor for 2 secs, before crashing back to desktop
and icons.
(Hmmm. looks like 2 re-installs)
many thanks for your trouble.
Hood (sunk)
P.S. Partial success! Restored F.S. on Xp Pro HDD to earlier date,
and it then loaded V9.52 patch. fixing the crash 'on turn command '
glitch. Win 98SE O/S HDD still crashing on trying to access F.S. from
desktop.

("Those the Gods wish to destroy, .....................they first give Fighting Steel !!!)

dean_acheson

03-12-07, 01:11 PM

has anyone used this with Vista yet?

AlmightyTallest

08-03-08, 02:37 PM

Hey Guys,

Sorry for bringing up a dead thread but I recently discovered this sim and got it running with the Naval Warfare Simulations patch 10.43 on my Windows XP machine. The graphics work fine... Except for the sky textures, they are all messed up, and when you have text or your mouse cursor in the sky graphics it leaves psychdelic trails and whatnot, then after a few minutes my game bogs down and freezes up.

I've tried playing the vanilla game version 1.1 also and got the exact same problem, both with sky texture problems and the slowdown and eventual freeze up.

Below are my computer specs:

Windos XP Home Edition version 2002
Service Pack 2
Intel Core 2 CPU
6600 at 3.41 GHz 2 GB RAM
NVidia BFG 8800 Ultra OC running version 175.16
drivers
Direct X 9.0c

Now I've also tried using older video drivers for my card, the 163.xx and the game will run without crashing, but the sky textures and odd graphic artifacts are still there.

Anyone know of any way to help get me running with this sim? I'm wondering if it's a video card driver issue.

Thanks for any help! :D

Sailor Steve

08-03-08, 10:14 PM

Did you try the Fighting Steel website, as linked above?

AlmightyTallest

08-05-08, 03:06 AM

Hello Sailor Steve,

Yes, I actually posted about my problem over at the Naval Warfare Simulation site to see if I could find help there. I'm running their 10.43 version of the game, and recently tried the 9.5 version to see if that would help, but I have the same problems, even when running the origional version 1.1 I'm thinking it has something to do with my video card being Direct X 10 compliant being incompatible with the Direct X9 calls the game is asking for....

Or maybe I have and option in my graphics card selected that I should change. I'm so close to running this fine sim that I don't want to give up on it, I just discovered it!! And I really like what I've seen. :D

Hood

08-06-08, 01:04 AM

:hmm: I was just wondering, if the worst came to the worst, and F.S. turns out to be totally incompatible with DiractX 10 cards, if it wouldn't be worth your while, picking up an old PC from a car-boot sale or somesuch, maybe even running :huh: Windows 98 and more or less any old VGA ?
As long as you had no intention of gaming on-line with it (not really secure enough) you could use this for all your retro games, and those which won't actually run under Xp/Vista. (e.g. Rowan's: Battle of Britain etc).
You might even find under your workbench enough obsolete bits and pieces to be able to 'cobble' one together. (I know I could !) :roll:

Cheers and Good Luck
Hood

AlmightyTallest

08-06-08, 03:21 PM

Hey Hood, thanks for the suggestion, I had considered the possibility, but I simply didn't have room for another computer.

I did fix the problem however!!! :rock: Turns out I needed to use the BETA Windows XP GeForce driver version 177.79 that can be found at the following site:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_177.79_beta.html (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_177.79_beta.html)

Anyone having problems with this sim and using similar hardware to mine may want to try it out.

JapLance

08-08-08, 03:23 AM

I did fix the problem however!!! :rock: Turns out I needed to use the BETA Windows XP GeForce driver version 177.79 that can be found at the following site:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_177.79_beta.html (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_177.79_beta.html)

Anyone having problems with this sim and using similar hardware to mine may want to try it out.

Excellent :rock: . I had lost faith in playing again that oldie in my new computer. I was having exactly the same weird problem with the sky textures in a NVIDIA Geforce 8500GT, but hese BETA version seems to have fixed it, after three failed attempts with official drivers. I didn't test it thoroughly, but a quick check showed a clear blue sky over my ships :arrgh!: .

Thanks a lot for the tip, AlmightyTallest, let's hope the BETA doesn't break something else :up: .

Buddahaid

08-08-08, 11:34 AM

Well 177.79 didn't solve my problem with SH2 and DC. I still get corrupted 2D overlays. The 8800gt has "broken" four titles I had working perfectly in Xp with the older ATI x850xt. Almost gonna take it out, but not yet.

Buddahaid

AlmightyTallest

08-08-08, 12:27 PM

JapLance

08-09-08, 04:41 AM

Glad it helped you out Japlance, I'm having one more hurdle to overcome though.

I can play the game now, but no matter where I am, after a few minutes into a battle my text starts multiplying until my system bogs down and the game freezes up. I think I've tried just about everything to fix this, but not sure now what to do. I've tried literally dozens of different drivers, graphics card settings, audio drivers, and compatibility modes for older games, but this one is consistent. It even happens wether I use the origional v.1.1 or if I used the patched version with Fighting Steel Projects v.10.43. Anyone else ever run into this problem?

:damn: :damn: :damn:

I've also found problems after a longer session. Just about 20 minutes into the game, the display locks. For the moment the only partial solution is setting autosave to every 5 minutes and restart the game where it last saved. Better than nothing.

Well 177.79 didn't solve my problem with SH2 and DC. I still get corrupted 2D overlays. The 8800gt has "broken" four titles I had working perfectly in Xp with the older ATI x850xt. Almost gonna take it out, but not yet.

Buddahaid

No, I have the same problem with SH2/DC since I started with this damn NVIDIA card :down:, and these last BETA drivers didn't help at all. Keep my fingers crossed and maybe a later driver release will fix it.

AlmightyTallest

08-10-08, 07:34 AM

Hey guys, I found a discussion forum moderated by some of the people working on NVidia drivers, there's a thread I posted on in regards to Fighting Steel, if you guys are having problems, maybe you can post there and they might get the issue resolved if it's a driver issue.

I found that Fighting Steel plays fine if I use 163.75 drivers, but the sky textures are corrupted. The Sky textures are fixed in 177.79, but now the game crashes once you get into a battle.

Link to NVidia forum thread is here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=74535

pozine

08-26-08, 05:20 PM

my computer run with windows vista and it worst than xp...

the ships are sometime invisible, their turrets are missing, the sea is white the sky is... etC etc..:nope:

how can i fix that?

pozine

08-26-08, 05:31 PM

oh!... does fighting steel is realeased to download for free?

pozine

09-01-08, 05:25 PM

UP...:hmm:

retnug37

04-09-09, 01:58 AM

Enjoying this game for the first time, though i have owned it since it came out. I have followed this forum and got it up and running with the new content here, and as to the issue of it locking after 20 minutes, I use it mostly in 2D and it only lags when it cuts to 3D scenes such as a near miss. This extends it nearly indefinatly.

Now as to my current problem. does this work with the scenario editor? I keep having an issue of it dropping out of the editor when I choose the option of Creating a Division. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this?

Maverik010

08-26-10, 01:26 PM

sorry for burring old thread, but ive got problem when i want to start game it run correctly but when i choose any scenario it brings me to deskop and say something about decoder - encoder indeo what i must do ? pls help
:damn::damn:
Greeting Maverik010:salute:

Sonarman

08-27-10, 04:15 AM

The guys over at NWS (Naval warfare simulations) have quite a large forum on Fighting Steel having developed an extensive mod for the game. There is a page on indeo problems (http://forums.navalwarfare.net/showthread.php?489-Fighting-Steel-Indeo-and-FSP) which may help. Note that Indeo is officially not compatible with Windows 7 64 bit although there may be some workarounds using comapatibility modes etc.

CTarana

08-29-10, 10:10 AM

From that filename, it looks like you downloaded a Windows ME driver, not a '98 driver.I would suggest making double sure you have the correct drivers, and reinstalling them. If it still doesn't work, either downgrade to an older driver, or install DirectX 9.0c. The latest drivers may require it. Other than that, I'm stumped. Maybe wipe, and do a complete reinstall of your entire system?

I don't recommend anything higher than DirectX 8.1 for ANY brand of Windows98 including SE. :nope: I used DX9 on my computer and had so many problems I ended up reformatting and reinstalling Win98. He needs the correct Video Drivers even if it means taking the computer to a local shop who can check the motherboard for him. It sounds like he did download a WinME driver and's probably what's caused the error on startup. Fighting Steel worked perfectly under Win98 for me, only after I got a new computer with WinXP Pro did I have to go to NWS and get the patch.

ChristopherT

marky84

11-23-10, 09:48 PM

aww fighting steel was an awesome game. the anticipation, the wondering what ull run into, and then the pure joy and bloodlust when u find ur battleship force has encountered yamato!!

there needs to be more backward compatibility with new OSs so we can more easily play these old games(at least so the more computer illiterate like me can) :haha: