DB editor

[mike_espo]

What does it do? Can you fix platforms? Change sonars?

The Kilo Active and passive sonar needs fixing...... :cry:

I don't know if it will be addressed in the next"patch"

...assuming there is one...... :hmm:

[mike_espo]

What? Nobody knows about the DB editor???? :o

[Fish]

Look on Subguru's side for jsteeds DB editor.
There is one from Ludger too, don't ask me what they do. I am anxiously
to burn my hands. :oops:

[Bellman]

:) Yes - I have tried to get into it using the MS Access but dont seem to arrive at the right spreadsheet display. :hmm:

If anyones got any tips or 'how-tos' it would be great to get some advice on how to proceed -
in the absence of a Readme. :roll: :arrgh!: :damn:

Frustrated and ............... :down: :nope:

[Bellman]

My appologise - I have just taken up suggestions to try Ludgers DWEdit and have just downloaded it.

This appears to have a readme so it might be kinder to this DB editor novice. We shall see. :hmm:

[XabbaRus]

In many ways Ludger's DWEdit is more straightforward to use but you can't alter certain values independent of other stuff like you can with jsteed's.

I've always used Ludgers DWEdit as it is the one I am used to.

[mike_espo]

Ok... thanks! :up:

[jsteed]

I did not think the editor required anything more than the comments that are in the zip file.

1. Unzip both files into the DW database folder.

2. Double click on DWDBEdit.mdb.

3. Press the Import/Export button to import the db into the program.

cheers, jsteed

[Bellman]

:) Both DBEditors readmes are fine for installation purposes - what I was/am frustrated with is not noing how to use them.:hmm:
Was hoping something might be in the docs. :roll:

We are not all software savy - to that level.
Seems I'm not alone -

Fish:-don't ask me what they do. I am anxiously to burn my hands.

Help/advice/procedures genuinely sought - like ..................
Use Open Office and/or MS Office.
Just use a Spreadsheet prog.
Use Access and access it through OO.

Procedure - first open X....then.................to enter the ...........

If you want to inspect............do this.
If you want to change...........do that.
:lol: DONT do that...............

I now this sounds paltroony to guys who eat software with their cornflakes ....................
....but many out here are flakey with this stuff. :P :huh: :roll: :yep: :arrgh!: :damn:

[Bellman]

..........................................so to the uninitiated , perhaps it would be wiser to say - 'HEALTH WARNING'
'If you dont know what youre doing dont meddle'

..............but it would be interesting to see the settings, the parameters, etc. ;)

[Bellman]

:roll: :P :yep: :arrgh!: .................................................. ........... ;) :lol:

[Adm. Ahab]

I get a compiler error when I try to import the database from DW. Is there a step I am missing?

[LuftWolf]

Are you using jsteeds? or Ludgars?

If you are using jsteeds, you need to have MS access 2000 installed on your machine.

[Adm. Ahab]

Are you using jsteeds? or Ludgars?

If you are using jsteeds, you need to have MS access 2000 installed on your machine.

I am using jsteeds and I have access 2000 as well. I get the error from most of the controls on the switch board, but I would assume that I need to import the DB from DW first. I put both files included with jsteeds download, in to the database folder as well.

[LuftWolf]

I'm not familiar with jsteed's editor, so I can't give you much help, I'm afraid. :oops:

[Adm. Ahab]

I'm not familiar with jsteed's editor, so I can't give you much help, I'm afraid. :oops:

Thanks anyway. I was hoping to look at the passive sound levels of the various platforms.

[Bellman]

:lol: ......................Get in there............where ? ............how ?...............and now what ?..................BANG ! :damn:

Now when I take the back off the telly I see a lot .............but it dont mean a darn thing ! .'. Dont touch ! :hmm:

I'm with Fish here :-
...........don't ask me what they do. I am anxiously to burn my hands.

'Anyone out there. This is Planet Earth calling '.............Heeeeeeeelp. :roll:

It would be really nice if some Super Gallactic Time Traveller Lord with two brains could shed
some light on this subject. :yep: :up: :rock:

[Bellman]

:roll: Rant :yep: ;)

[Bellman]

Quite underwhelming. :P :nope: :zzz: :zzz: ................................................ :dead:

[Adm. Ahab]

Quite underwhelming. :P :nope: :zzz: :zzz: ................................................ :dead:


I felt your pain :cry:

[Bellman]

The DBEditor induces a reaction shown, nicely by the avatar of Syxx_Killer in the thread ''Sorry Guys"

Sums it up nicely. :lol: ..........a trifle gorey :o

The frustration is so intolerable - I think, yes I might , be driven to cope by.........................having a boiled egg for breakfast.

At least I can bang it on the head. :rotfl:

[Bellman]

................... :lol: and Ahab in relation to 'underwhelming'........
Syxx's avtar has the caption '' When your last fish is a dud.''

Guess we know what he means. ;)

[MaHuJa]

I don't have access (or any ms office) around, so I don't know about jsteeds editor.

What I do know, is the "most interesting" fields of the database, as seen from ludger's editor.

Is an explanation of these what people want?

[mike_espo]

Ive been wondering, got the DB editor...looks cool..the inner workings of DW.

I think some things are off:

I would like the Ohio to be quieter: I detected it at 10nm with the Kilo Narrowband.....seems waaaaay too far.

Anyway, I don't understand the freq ranges for detection to edit them..

Any suggestions? Would any such change really make a difference?

thanks.

[Bellman]

MaHuJa wrote:-What I do know, is the "most interesting" fields of the database, as seen from ludger's editor.

Is an explanation of these what people want?

:sunny: That would be great for starters :up:

But I cant run Ludgers - its in the Db but when I try to start it the Dos type box flashes up, disappears and nothing
happens. Now this may be 'security ' software getting in the way - but to date Enditall and terminating such
software has not helped me to start Ludgers Editor. :hmm:

[Bellman]

Well Mike and Ahab I hope you join me in a.........................
:P :zzz: :dead: ..................... :yep: ;)

[Bellman]

mike_espo:-
What? Nobody knows about the DB editor????

Fish:-
There is one from Ludger too, don't ask me what they do. I am anxiously to burn my hands.

Bellman:-

If anyones got any tips or 'how-tos' it would be great to get some advice on how to proceed -

Adm. Ahab:-
I get a compiler error when I try to import the database from DW. Is there a step I am missing?


MaHuJa:-
Is an explanation of these what people want?

VOICES CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS ! :hmm:

[Bellman]

'....Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble. '

Macbeth: How now, you secret, black and midnight hags !
What is't you do ?

Witches: A deed without a name.

[Kapitan]

:o :o :o :o :o :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

[Bellman]

:roll: Help ? :yep: :hmm:

[LuftWolf]

Once we are finished with the next version of our mod, I may write a short tutorial for the Ludgar's DB editor. :ping:

[Pigfish]

Once we are finished with the next version of our mod, I may write a short tutorial for the Ludgar's DB editor. :ping:

Hey LuftWolf. I am working on one and maybe within about a week I will post it or ask Bill to host.

But then Im thinking you will probally do a better job (Comp skills + better typing/writting skills = better job) so let me know and I wont continue. :lol:

[Bellman]

:sunny:

Thanks guys - there are a lot of us out here who are going to be very grateful for your help. :up: :rock: :|\

[jsteed]

Due to popular demand I have just sent a tutorial to Bill Nichols, (http://www.subguru.com/) on how to add a new navy to DW using DWDBEdit. With this, you should be able to add units to existing navies or create new ones. It will probably be up sometime tommorrow.

cheers, jsteed

[Bellman]

Thanks jsteed. :up: :cool:

[Deathblow]

Due to popular demand I have just sent a tutorial to Bill Nichols, (http://www.subguru.com/) on how to add a new navy to DW using DWDBEdit. With this, you should be able to add units to existing navies or create new ones. It will probably be up sometime tommorrow.

cheers, jsteed

This is a nice tutorial. But it would be nice to know what the values are controlling, not just what to put in there. What do the different Thrust paramenters control? cPropEfficiency? :doh:

And why do sensors detection curves have more than one value? :hmm: I'm still stumped on what each some of these paraments are controlling :damn: Can you put a little notation out to the side of some of the values about what the value is doing? :ping:

[Bellman]

I second that - it would be nice to hear of whats and whys as well as the much appreciated 'hows' :up:

[jsteed]

Hi Bellman & Deathblow,

Actually, I thought of doing that while I was writing the tutorial. However I would still be writing it if I tried to include all that information. My goal was to get something out so people could add their own, favorite units.

Your request is still a good one. But what I will do is write a short description of each individual db and give my understanding of how each parameter works, or in some cases doesn't work. I'll start with the sensor and thrust db's since those were ones you specifically mentioned. I'll do the others as I have time.

In the mean time, you can click on one of the edit boxes in the form view of the db. At the bottom, in the status line, is a short description of the parameter.

cheers, jsteed

[Bellman]

JS That will be greatly appreciated thank you. :|\ :up: :rock:

[Deathblow]

Hi Bellman & Deathblow,

Actually, I thought of doing that while I was writing the tutorial. However I would still be writing it if I tried to include all that information. My goal was to get something out so people could add their own, favorite units.

Your request is still a good one. But what I will do is write a short description of each individual db and give my understanding of how each parameter works, or in some cases doesn't work. I'll start with the sensor and thrust db's since those were ones you specifically mentioned. I'll do the others as I have time.

In the mean time, you can click on one of the edit boxes in the form view of the db. At the bottom, in the status line, is a short description of the parameter.

cheers, jsteed

Thank you very much, that rocks! :rock: :sunny:

[Kapitan]

i no understand