Help with mouse sensitivity please [Archive]

Aries

01-20-19, 04:16 PM

Hi all, coming back to Silent Hunter after a long hiatus. New machine, new OS, took a bit to get the game working. But now I'm having a problem controlling my views. My mouse movements are WAY too sensitive and my views are swinging wildly all over the place. It's very hard to properly search the horizon when the slightest nudge spins my periscope 20 degrees! Does anyone have a solution I might be able to use? I'm running Silent Hunter 4 with the U-Boat expansion from Steam on a Win 10 machine with an Nvidia graphics card. Any help or ideas woule be appreciated!

propbeanie

01-20-19, 05:37 PM

Which folder is the game installed in? Steam does like "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter...", which will complicate your life later if you go to use mods.

Do you have any mods installed at this time? When doing the Steam v1.5 with Uboat Missions, there is a 2nd SH4 start link. Are you starting from the Steam Library page?

Aries

01-20-19, 08:35 PM

Thank for replying! The install is located in D:/Steam Games/steamapps/common/Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific. I have no mods whatsoever, only SH4 and U-Boat missions and I'm using the Uboat Missions shortcut to start the game. Are there any other updates? I'm still working my way through the mod workshop, but unless I can get this fixed there won't be a lot of point.

propbeanie

01-20-19, 08:43 PM

Now, that is the "latest / greatest", and over 10 years old... sigh... Does all of the 3D ships & sea look OK in the game? You don't happen to have any other graphic anomalies?... I've got several "brands" of laser mice on my desktops and laptops, and the only thing I can think of is a configuration applet for the mouse, like a Logitech or Microsoft "Mouse Properties"... ?? The game uses whatever Windows gives it, which does come through the DirectX interface, so be sure your DirectX v9.0C installed with the game. :salute:

Aries

01-20-19, 10:44 PM

Everything looks fine so far. I've not started a career yet, only the training missions. I'll poke around my mouse settings and see if I can tune the sensitivity for just SH4. I was hoping there was some hidden setting or confit that I could edit, like in some other games. Thanks!

propbeanie

01-21-19, 07:32 AM

I do not recall there being any mouse sensitivity settings in the game, though there may well be. Perhaps someone else will chime in about it.

I do know one thing that will greatly affect the mouse in the game, and that is if you "shell-out" to windows while playing - er, "testing" your set-up... The game is an old WinXP game, using a single core on your computer, and expects exclusive use of all the resources, especially the video and audio streams. If you use the Windows key, or the <Alt><Tab> or <Ctrl><Tab> combinations to leave the game and go out to the Windows desktop to do something else (or if the cat comes along and walks across your keyboard :roll: ), then when you go back in, the game seems somewhat confused, and you will notice the mouse being overly sensitive, as well as other "glitches". The use of high Time Compression settings (sometimes as low as a TC > 2048) can also affect things like that at times. :salute:

Front Runner

01-21-19, 10:49 AM

You can set your Mouse Pointer speed in the Mouse Properties page in Windows 10.

https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/change-mouse-speed-windows-10/

If you have a "Customizable Mouse" such as the R.A.T. 7, they come with a configuration applet. My RAT 7 has programmable pointer speeds which I have set from very fast to very, very, slow. It works very well in SH4.

stork100

01-21-19, 04:24 PM

Further to this I would like to add that my impression has been that the values in the stock SH4 cameras.dat, a file controlling panning of views and such, tend to be a bit sensitive whereas most subsequent mega mods have slowed things down somewhat in this respect, something you might consider for the future. Though seeing as you're just trying to get things basically working I wouldn't advise any editing in this area at this time. One thing I may suggest in addition to what others have advised is to hold down ctrl whilst rotating views. This will slow the rotation and increase precision. Holding shift makes it faster, incidentally.

Aries

01-22-19, 12:29 AM

hauangua

01-22-19, 01:27 AM

OK! I'll try installing one of the mega mods and see how that goes. Can y'all recommend one? I'm seeing a bunch that look great but don't really know which one I want. I'm mostly looking for stability and perhaps a bit of graphic enhancement. Once I've played a bit and gotten used to the game I'm sure I'll be able to figure out just exactly how I want to mod the game. Just a "general improvment" mod for now I suppose is what I'm looking for.

Thank you for the replies!

@Mouse sensitivity@
Find this:

Thread here
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=176708&page=2

Or this( inverted mouse speed)For SH3 but you can watch in yours cfg file...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2492365&postcount=24

Front Runner

01-22-19, 07:48 AM

OK! I'll try installing one of the mega mods and see how that goes. Can y'all recommend one? I'm seeing a bunch that look great but don't really know which one I want. I'm mostly looking for stability and perhaps a bit of graphic enhancement. Once I've played a bit and gotten used to the game I'm sure I'll be able to figure out just exactly how I want to mod the game. Just a "general improvment" mod for now I suppose is what I'm looking for.

Thank you for the replies!

I recommend Trigger Maru Overhaul v2.5 to start with.

Later on you can jump into the FOTRSUv.* beta testing. It's a barrel of "fun". :haha::haha:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155786

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=132330

Aries

01-23-19, 10:39 PM

So I finally got a bit of time and installed Trigger Maru 2.5. Problem solved! I can control my periscope now! Thank you all for your helpful comments. :)

:Kaleun_Salute:

Bleiente

01-24-19, 07:28 AM

So I finally got a bit of time and installed Trigger Maru 2.5. Problem solved!
I think that single-mod TMO is not the best option for re-entry, as it is a difficulty mod and more suitable for experienced players. :03:

But if you want to stay with TMO, you need the campaign patch for TMO2.5:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3506

If you feel disturbed by the extremely blue color of the water (somehow reminiscent of jello)...
http://workupload.com/file/kdwbDXp

Last but not least - have you installed and activated JSGME and the 4GB patch (alternatively LAA)?
https://workupload.com/file/4LWqqpxY (https://workupload.com/file/4LWqqpxY)

:Kaleun_Salute:

Aries

01-25-19, 08:21 PM

Capt. James Hook

01-25-19, 08:30 PM

My game was running slow and choppy so I gave up playing and went fly for a year or so. Last month I installed the large address thing and wow, smooth sailing.

Do give it a try.:Kaleun_Salute:

Front Runner

01-26-19, 07:32 AM

I've not installed the large address aware patch. I'd understood that it was for if you were getting crashes. Is it in fact a good preventative patch to install just for general purpose playing? And I installed TMO manually. Thanks again!

In order to get SH4 to run on our new computers, the LAA is essential.

It is included in the SH4 Corruption Management System (highly recommended.)

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=229395&highlight=SH4+Corruption+Management+System

Follow the instructions and have LOTS of fun playing with different mod sets without having to un-install / re-install.
I currently have SH4 Stock, TMO/RSRD, TMO/RSRD/OTC/ISP, Ralles Mod Soup, Real Fleet Boat, Mod Test, and various FOTRSUv.*. All installed concurrently and working properly.

I also use nVidia Profile Inspector to set my graphics settings such as forcing Anti-Aliasing.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvidia-profile-inspector-download.html

Have fun and good hunting!

fkampf

08-23-22, 12:57 AM

@Mouse sensitivity@
Find this:

Thread here
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=176708&page=2

Or this( inverted mouse speed)For SH3 but you can watch in yours cfg file...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2492365&postcount=24

for SH4 the address change
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2824368&postcount=25

Mad Mardigan

08-23-22, 12:55 PM

I've not installed the large address aware patch. I'd understood that it was for if you were getting crashes. Is it in fact a good preventative patch to install just for general purpose playing? And I installed TMO manually. Thanks again!

LAA, is NOT a patch... it's... :hmmm: more, in the way of an app or a tool... to tell your computer that 'hey dummy, this game (or any other game, for that matter... :yep: that's long in the tooth) has full & unfettered access, to 4 gigs of RAM.'

:shucks:

Back when SH4 was released... computers, weren't as... sophisticated or as complex, with so many... bells & whistles as they have as they are nowadays... :yep: & so... did not need such, to do that.

Hope that info... helps... :yep: :up:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

1Patriotofmany

08-24-22, 09:02 AM

LAA, is NOT a patch... it's... :hmmm: more, in the way of an app or a tool... to tell your computer that 'hey dummy, this game (or any other game, for that matter... :yep: that's long in the tooth) has full & unfettered access, to 4 gigs of RAM.'

:shucks:

Back when SH4 was released... computers, weren't as... sophisticated or as complex, with so many... bells & whistles as they have as they are nowadays... :yep: & so... did not need such, to do that.

Hope that info... helps... :yep: :up:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.So if I had some older games that don't work with win7 or 10, they might work with it?

Mad Mardigan

08-24-22, 12:19 PM

So if I had some older games that don't work with win7 or 10, they might work with it?

That, would be My understanding... yep.

Best advice... try them without it 1st... if issues are had with CTD'ing, then apply LAA to the games .exe & retry it again & it should cull out the CTD... some may work fine off the bat, without it... maybe. Don't have many really seriously older games, to know for certain, though....

So, take that with a cargo of C2 ships, all loaded down with sea salt... :shucks: for what it's worth.

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

Jeff-Groves

08-24-22, 12:49 PM

1Patriotofmany

08-27-22, 09:58 AM

NO NO NO NO!
LAA ONLY gives a Game access to more memory then the 32 bit Game would.
IF any given Game will NOT run? The LAA or 4 Gig patch ain't gonna help!
There is a butt load of reasons a given Game won't run on 7 - 11 Windork.
Given the Games name? I might be able to point you to HOW to run them.I will bear that in mind, I have so many that ran fine on XP and even win7 32 bit, That won't run on Win7X64. When I get the time I'll make list, thanks! I do have one for now that's very odd, it will run, but I have to start the game and then kill it with task manager because nothing happens, then I start it again and it runs fine. Rainbow six 3. Why would it do that on win7X64? I know I have couple like that. But numerous others won't run on WIn7X64 but will on Win7 32bit, Battlefield 1942 being one of them.

Jeff-Groves

08-27-22, 11:56 AM

I posted a link to a fix for that double start problem here at Subsim once awhile back.

I haven't found that thread though.
:hmmm:

There's a file that you rename in one of the system folders but I don't recall which one.