Some gameplay for you

[Kaleun Cook]

I was surprised when I heard you Subsim-Experts aren't in the Beta yet, so I decided to record some basic Gameplay with English commentary to give you at least something to base your opinion on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Fsg37ZUYQ&feature=youtu.be

So far, I haven't received any warning not to upload such stuff. Let me know if you want to see more and I'll see if I can record some more before they sue the crap out of me. :arrgh!:

I'm just kidding, so far the BB guys have been very kind people.

The video description:

"I recently got invited to the SHO Beta. I don't remember singing any NDA, there are already some videos out there and the Beta forums are readable for everyone too, so I thought I might as well record some basic Gameplay to give you an idea what to expect. Please keep in mind that this is a BETA and that the game might undergo some changes till the final release.

The beginning got cut off unfortunately, I'm saying "Hello Subsimmers" there.

The cursor you see in this video isn't the game cursor, appearantly my recording software replaced it.

I'm German and English isn't my mother tongue, so please excuse the accent and mistakes I might have made in the commentary.

To apply for the Beta yourself, go to silenthunteronline.com."

[redline202]

Thanks for the info :D

[Pisces]

[Caresses his SH3 DVD]

My Precious!!

[Hinrich Schwab]

[Caresses his SH3 DVD]

My Precious!!
:k_rofl:

[Sailor Steve]

[Caresses his SH3 DVD]

My Precious!!
And people ask what the point is of buying things on disc anymore.
:rotfl2:

[Sonarman]

A great video overview of the game, thank you very much for taking the time & trouble to make this. :up:

[StarTrekMike]

While I am fully aware that this is still in Beta, that does not change the fact that the underlying framework of this is pretty disheartening, I mean, it seems that a lot has been removed and it offers very limited functionality.

[longam]

I have to agree, its like a lower version of SH5 with no 3D views. Whats the point?

[BigBANGtheory]

Thanks for making the video.

[LemonA]

Don't know why he get the title "Chief" in his nametag.
Why do gameplay videos always need to be done by clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed users?

[Pisces]

Don't know why he get the title "Chief" in his nametag.Because he has made a few more posts here in subsim than your Engineer status.

Why do gameplay videos always need to be done by clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed users?That's a bit of a generalization, isn't it? But if it is true, they probably understand the hardship of not knowing how things work, and felt like needing to share what they know.

[Feuer Frei!]

Why do gameplay videos always need to be done by clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed users?
Pretty harsh on the guy aren't you? Did you watch the whole video?
You might want to remember that he's only been playing it for 2 days. Also remember that he took the time and effort out of his real life and comprised and uploaded a gameplay video for us not fortunate enough to be in the beta.
You might also want to remember that next time you are critical of someone or something, you should use a hell of a lot more tact.

[Kaleun Cook]

Don't know why he get the title "Chief" in his nametag.
Why do gameplay videos always need to be done by clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed users?

Would love to hear your corrections for the appearantly clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed statements I made so I could correct them in the description/future videos.

Edit:

Pretty harsh on the guy aren't you?

No need for any praise just because I recorded it. If he thinks the video was a waste of time, that's alright to say. ;)

@LemonA: Or is it the general "Don't know yet... Could be... Haven't seen yet..." foundation that you didn't like? If so, sorry that the video wasn't what you were looking for. I thought it might be interesting to share what I know after two days (roughly 6-8 hours play time combined) since imho the first few days are crucial when it comes to the question: Will I keep playing this or not? If I don't know some things after these two days, this might give you an idea of how well the game transports information at this point (But they've already announced that they'll redo the ingame tutorials).


I realized that while I emphazise the differences between this and my old SH3 experience (never played SH4 or SH5) I didn't really say if I like the game so far or not.

Personally, I usually was too impatient to leave the harbor from the dock in SH3 so I often skipped that - therefore I don't miss this in SHO.

I like the option to jump to a convoy if I want to get into action quickly while when playing SH3 even with accelerated time I know I'll have to spend a lot of time to see any enemy ships. On the other hand, I don't find it appealing that this way the strategic map isn't much more than a menu to pick your perfectly described mission from. Right now, I miss the uncertainty when approaching a convoy and the random contacts that sailing around gave me. Then again, there were some convoys now where the description said they'd be escorted but they weren't - so maybe there is at least some uncertainty left in the mission descriptions.

Resupplying the boat is a bit tedious the way it works now, hope they'll improve this.

After recording that Singleplayer video I tried playing in a Wolfpack. It seemed a bit unstable at this point (two crashes), but I think that could definitely be fun once I leave these early campaign seas and encounter some better protected convoys.

[Feuer Frei!]

I must admit after watching the video by Kaleun Cook that i wouldn't enjoy Silent Hunter Online.
I know i know, beta is beta, but, let's face it, once released(in whatever state that will be) it will still be arcadey, simplistic and it seems 'dumbed-down' for certainly the more hard-core sub simmers out there. I don't consider myself 'hard-core' but even so, it looks like a lot of the bells and whistles were cut from this.
Will be interesting to see what makes it live, upon release.I would imagine also they are trying to appeal to a broader range of players with the 'limits' on this game in relation to gfx and whatnot. Older PC's could run it, it seems. Not sure on specs required.
Thanks again Kaleun Cook, i'd be more than happy to watch more of your vids :salute:
PS: a little humour was even present (for me anyway) with the attack periscope controls disappearing :haha:

[Nisgeis]

Hi Kaleun Cook,

Thanks for taking the time to narrate and post that. Very informative.

[Jimbuna]

Don't know why he get the title "Chief" in his nametag.
Why do gameplay videos always need to be done by clueless, unsuspecting and uninformed users?

This is your second infraction for the same kind of outburst so please take the opportunity to think before you post in the future.

We like everyone to be respectful to one another in this community.

[garren]

This is going to be a commercial disaster. I guess this will be the end of Silent Hunter franchise. What a disappointment. :nope:


We need indie developers to make something worthwhile. Maybe DCS (the makers of Blackshark) would be willing to make a sub sim?

[StandingCow]

Just found out about this... pretty excited.

Edit: ok, just read the comments.... ut oh :(

[Feuer Frei!]

Just found out about this... pretty excited.

Edit: ok, just read the comments.... ut oh :(

Nah, we're just a bunch of whingers :O::haha: (Joking)

It's only beta still, lots can and will change :up:

[von faust]

I must admit after watching the video by Kaleun Cook that i wouldn't enjoy Silent Hunter Online.
I know i know, beta is beta, but, let's face it, once released(in whatever state that will be) it will still be arcadey, simplistic and it seems 'dumbed-down' for certainly the more hard-core sub simmers out there.....

:up:
It seems too much arcade (my opinion. I like the maximum of realism)
- Calculate intercept course.........yes Sir
- Point the enemy....yes SIr
- Shoot.....yes Sir
- Finish ??? :hmmm:

Ok, it's another type of game but I prefer to returm to my old map, ruler, pencil, AOBF, manual TDC, walking through submarine, attack periscope, use the hydrophone etc etc etc :D

I think that this game is not suitable for the great majority of us.

[GoldenRivet]

thanks for sharing the video

this does not seem to be a title which has much appeal to those hard core players.

at least it doesnt seem to have a great deal of appeal to me.

it seems that all of the sense of adventure has been removed what with the warping to targets, no random encounters with the enemy etc

i rather enjoyed spending time on the conning tower standing watch with my crew, or relaxing in the captains bunk listening to the gramophone killing time between engagements.

SHO seems like it will be a lot of warping around going "pew pew pew"

[kaleun Peter Gipp]

Thank-you for the time and effort of sharing the video , unfortunately the layout of SHO as is , does not appeal to me , it has a juvenile aspect to it .
Unfortunately these online games seem to be the new standard in the gaming industry and the traditional DVD format has gone with the wind .
Once again Thank-you for the info it is greatly appreciated .
Prost! :Kaleun_Cheers:

[TheDude107]

Thank-you for the time and effort of sharing the video , unfortunately the layout of SHO as is , does not appeal to me , it has a juvenile aspect to it .
Unfortunately these online games seem to be the new standard in the gaming industry and the traditional DVD format has gone with the wind .
Once again Thank-you for the info it is greatly appreciated .
Prost! :Kaleun_Cheers:
Yeah I'd have to agree on the "not appealing" part. The best part about SH3 is the immersion like someone above mentioned. If I can't walk around the boat, stand watch, or be bored rotating watch shifts.... As weird as it sounds I like going through all the BS to get to the fun in SH3. You get a little attached to your crew in SH3 and actually care if they go under.

On the browser side of your post I think browser games have something to offer but they haven't been executed correctly. I love what World of Tanks did. Love what they are planning. Heroes and Generals is a decent idea but the game needs 1000%x more maps(Which would make it 33 maps total :/ )

[Nippelspanner]

"She's going down!"

R.I.P Silent Hunter series. It was an honor!

[Julhelm]

Thank-you for the time and effort of sharing the video , unfortunately the layout of SHO as is , does not appeal to me , it has a juvenile aspect to it .
Unfortunately these online games seem to be the new standard in the gaming industry and the traditional DVD format has gone with the wind .
Once again Thank-you for the info it is greatly appreciated .
Prost! :Kaleun_Cheers:
I wouldn't worry. F2P is a fad sprung from every exec in the game industry growing seeing nothing but huge dollar signs after watching the massive success of Farmville. Just like they all went and tried making their own Call of Duty killers after Modern Warfare made a billion dollars which so far have all failed to match even a fraction of the sales. Or how everybody jumped on the MMO subscription bandwagon a few years ago after the massive success of WoW which predictably ended with an oversaturated MMO market.

[TorpX]

That is a good point. I don't know what the gaming world will be like in 10 years, but I expect it will be different than it is now.

[Glock30Eric]

I think SHO is a great idea for those beginners before they jump into a hardcore silent hunter series.

Basically, SHO is a waterdown of SH5. It could be a double blade sword for some of us.

I believe we can call for SH6 someday in the future.

[Seeadler]

I think SHO is a great idea for those beginners before they jump into a hardcore silent hunter series.

Many of the players in the current beta have never played a Silent Hunter game before.

[Glock30Eric]

Many of the players in the current beta have never played a Silent Hunter game before.

It could be a reason for that. I am giving them a benefit of doubt and thinking outside of the box.

[fastfed]

LAME!!!!


Guys.. this is NOT FOR US!!!

This is designed for the typical time wasters that usually play "farm" or whatever its called on facebook.

Maybe those people want a little extra, online game web based.

UBI had the code and it was probably easy to do.

This game is not for any of us that want immersion and a simulator

[Sailor Steve]

I'm pretty sure it's not for me, but Subsim has more than 80,000 members. I would not presume to tell them what is "for them" or not.

[fastfed]

True, but I'm willing to bet that majority of those 80k members (Active?) more than likely won't give this facebook the time of day..


Although, who knows, maybe at work when the boss isn't looking, we will ALL be getting our fix in, with this :)

[Hitman]

Thanks for the gameplay video :up:

Looks like we are back at Silent Hunter 2, reminds me a lot of it and Danger from Deep :88)

[John Channing]

True, but I'm willing to bet that majority of those 80k members (Active?) more than likely won't give this facebook the time of day..


Although, who knows, maybe at work when the boss isn't looking, we will ALL be getting our fix in, with this :)


I dunno... I'm kinda looking forward to it. And I will put my Hardcore credentials up against anyone here.

JCC

[Arnold]

"Captain, our periscope seems to be stuck on the floor plates."
"Well Bernard, we won't be able to lift it up with that crowbar in your hand, we'll have to re-start the on-line game."

[Peril]

Nice vid. I might give it a go ,but after finally getting SH5 to work well with all Sobers and everyone elses fantastic mods, why? Im having a ball!:yeah:

[GalaxianFive]

This is game is obviously designed to run on as many browsers and various spec machines as possible so that as many people can play it as possible, to try to make as much money from it as possible. Therefore it has to have as much action as possible because a lot of gamers, especially young ones get bored with all the really true to life functions of an accurate simulation. Obviously this will be extremly simple to play for most people on this forum who are used to the complexity of SH 3, 4, or 5. But we should give it a chance as some of the many gamers who have never played a subsim before might, just might, evolve from playing this and join us here in playing the more involved sims in the SH world. My thanks to the maker of the vid, it is interesting to see why beta testing is so neccesary as even this vid shows some of the bugs that need sorting before this game goes live. G5.

[LtCdrAceMcGraw]

Silent Hunter Online, based on kaleun Cook's video, is not for me. But I can see the good in it - it can only generate interest for the genre and get people who perhaps had never considered games like Silent Hunter to give it a try and see what it's all about.

Thanks for taking the time to show this to us Kaleun Cook!

[Rosencrantz]

Thanks for video. It confirmed that after SH5 and SHO there is propably only one direction left... Up. :hmmm:


-RC-

[ninja turtle]

Silent Hunter Online, based on kaleun Cook's video, is not for me. But I can see the good in it - it can only generate interest for the genre and get people who perhaps had never considered games like Silent Hunter to give it a try and see what it's all about.

This is game is obviously designed to run on as many browsers and various spec machines as possible so that as many people can play it as possible, to try to make as much money from it as possible. Therefore it has to have as much action as possible because a lot of gamers, especially young ones get bored with all the really true to life functions of an accurate simulation. Obviously this will be extremly simple to play for most people on this forum who are used to the complexity of SH 3, 4, or 5. But we should give it a chance as some of the many gamers who have never played a subsim before might, just might, evolve from playing this and join us here in playing the more involved sims in the SH world.

I think SHO is a great idea for those beginners before they jump into a hardcore silent hunter series.

Basically, SHO is a waterdown of SH5. It could be a double blade sword for some of us.

I believe we can call for SH6 someday in the future.

Once this is released I'm pretty sure I will give it a go. If I don't like it then fair enough. I agree with the above quotes that a game like this could entice more youngsters into the genre we all love. That can't be a bad thing.

:subsim:

[Captain_AJ]

It Appears that SH has become a arcade game were you are just being a mindless kaptain .. it just makes all the modders that have worked so hard to get the experance of full emersion a farce .. I have been a fan ever since sh3 and now using Sh5 modded , whats more difficult than to figure out soulutions of torpedo firng angles and than plotting courses in the virtual atlantic ? To bad that SH has become like this . I am now playing CLiffs of dover and have not been sailing . However I have spent countless hours playing Sh5 Modded , and have gotten so used to war time radio . and the diffculties of being a kaptain .. I suppose that SH is now dead for with this new title ?

http://short.gs/19856

[longam]

It Appears that SH has become a arcade game were you are just being a mindless kaptain .. it just makes all the modders that have worked so hard to get the experance of full emersion a farce .. I have been a fan ever since sh3 and now using Sh5 modded , whats more difficult than to figure out soulutions of torpedo firng angles and than plotting courses in the virtual atlantic ? To bad that SH has become like this . I am now playing CLiffs of dover and have not been sailing . However I have spent countless hours playing Sh5 Modded , and have gotten so used to war time radio . and the diffculties of being a kaptain .. I suppose that SH is now dead for with this new title ?

http://short.gs/19856

Maybe they'll convert this over to a mobile app and get on with SH6, then again.

WoT format, here we go.... kill . die, spawn, rinse and repeat.

[Cougar46]

Thanks for the video, was looking for exactly one of these of the beta.

[whyme943]

Technically speaking, Alpha is the point at which new features are being added, whereas Beta is when you're just fixing bugs/balancing. So a beta's working gameplay is actually a very good indicator of the final product.

[bilges]

Thanks for recording and uploading the vid KC. Very informative.

I wouldn't be surprised if you just increased the sales of SH lll and lV on DVD, by many tens of thousands. :yeah:

[Redmane]

Well, thanks much for making the effort to post that. As some others have said, this is not for me. The freedom of movment and decision making, the "open-ended" nature of properly designed simulations is what I enjoy most, and obiously SHO ain't got it.

[Vince82]

Thanks for making this vid, I had already seen it before, because I found it through youtube.

To everybody that is expecting SHO to be SH6, you're not going to like it. If you're expecting SHO to be something new, you'll be interested.

Things from vid that I like about SHO:

The music
The chatbox, the ability to use chat is going to be fun and very usefull.

Something that I didn't like:

Not having a 360 degree bridge view, only being able to view through the uzo. I don't think it's necessary but it would be a very nice addition.


In general I did like the interface and I'm hoping for the best for SHO.

[Cybermat47]

I like the idea of being able to command multiple u-boats and play BdU, and I might play this when I'm not feeling up to a sim like SH5. But to be honest, the UI seems a bit cluttered.

[flag4]

...it would be great for Android - on the go!

maybe people who find this and know nothing of the sims will 'graduate' to the more in-depth version of SH3-4-5.

I don't think i'll be taking it seriously though. what I cant understand is why ubisoft invest so much in this development when they could have spared some change to finish off SH5?

oh well, at least it lives on in this arcade style attack-shooter type thing.

im looking forward to giving it a go.

[Julhelm]

I still can't see how this is very arcade or shooter-like.

[makman94]

I still can't see....

i played it and the steps i followed to shoot my torps are:

1.choose torpedo tube
2.asked WO to calculate the firing solution
3. clic on fire button and target sunked

i will not call this arcade-shooter game ,in case that i am missing other procedure than the above

[Julhelm]

You can do that in SH3 as well and be guaranteed a hit.

[Delta Wolf]

Thanks for the video :up:

[makman94]

You can do that in SH3 as well and be guaranteed a hit.

if that was the only way in sh3 then sh3 also would be an arcade-shooter game

[Vince82]

if that was the only way in sh3 then sh3 also would be an arcade-shooter game

:hmm2: No manual torpedo data computer in SHO?

[Julhelm]

if that was the only way in sh3 then sh3 also would be an arcade-shooter game
That's ridiculous. What about the fact that everything else about the game from tactical plot, limited visibility, interior systems, slow pace etc indicates sim-style gameplay? No, it must be arcade beacuse they made it accessible.

[flag4]

No, it must be arcade beacuse they made it accessible.

...I agree. that's my point.

[Vince82]

No, there is a way to use manual targeting, you got to use a program called SHOtools.

http://sp4m.de/Spiele/SilentHunterOnline/SHOTools/SHOToolsEN.html

[UhUdieEule]

Why i d'ont play this game? :o
I stand by about over 500 jears :har:


Greetings
UhU